- 02 November 2023 (152 messages)
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Everyone have a good Hallow's Eve? -
Or, All Hallow's day, since *that* was yesterday -
That's how it works, right? -
Wanna RP? -
Well that's certainly an interesting way to open a conversation -
What should the flu shot transform me into? -
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Anyone like charity? -
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What's up? -
There's a toxic crab that looks like a pancake.
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...I wanna eat the forbidden pancake -
Me too most days. #studentloans
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Wait really? -
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Hello -
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Anyone like charity? -
Hello John Gallin -
Anybody like charity? -
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Anyone have pocket change? -
Sorry I only have card -
Wanna RP? -
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Wanna roleplay? -
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Okay. Furry transformation and brainwashing? -
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whar -
What kind of furry transformation and brainwashing do you like? -
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Holy shit, you’re somehow back like a cockroach who can’t be exterminated -
Join a charity -
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Conservative -
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I am charity guy. -
Message from Zil / Opeliz has been deleted because it contains swear words (???) -
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Join a charity. -
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I work for The Salvation Army -
Not really sure myself. They just keep repeating themselves -
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He’s infamous in the transformation community for harassing artists and people about charity -
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Do you guys have pocket change? -
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Not for transphobic charities -
Join a charity -
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Yeah, this one’s… a special one alright -
Join The Salvation Army for Christmas -
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Furry transformation and brainwashing? -
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Okay. Harry Potter? -
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pushes up fedora Admin, we have a troll
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Join a charity. -
It does lmfao -
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Join a charity for Christmas. -
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Ya same line over and over again -
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Okay. Please formally join a charity. For Christmas. -
And? -
Why should we care -
Donate all your pocket change to charity. -
Don't got any dum shit -
Harry Potter? -
Harry Potter? -
If I did it would go to something but that is my own discretion -
Anyone like Harry Potter? -
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They are likely a bot -
Harry Potter supports charity. -
I promise you, he’s not a bot -
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Trans rights! 🏳️⚧️ -
I got my flu shot. -
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I donate to The Red Cross -
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Wanna RP? -
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Hmm idk -
There are no trans charities where I live. -
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X3 -
Well then -
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I got my flu shot. -
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Join a charity. For Christmas -
Na -
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No need to be -
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Who We Are | PFLAG LondonPFLAG London ON, is a local chapter of PFLAG Canada and is a volunteer-run, registered charitable organization. Through support, education and advocacy, we work to create a more accepting society for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals and their families, friends and allies. PFLAG London helps all members of our community who are struggling with issues of their sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression. We also support, educate and provide resources to parents, families, friends, and colleagues with questions or concerns regarding these issues.
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Join a charity. -
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I’m waiting John, answer the question -
Can i have pocket sand? -
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Ahreed -
You know im bad at not feeling bad for people, its a metaphorical desease -
Hmmhm -
Atergatis floridus
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Mmmmmm i hate it -
Hello -
Answer my question, John -
I work for The Salvation Army -
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Ask? -
I got my flu shot. -
Why don’t you donate to this charity? http://pflaglondon.ca/about/who-we-are/Who We Are | PFLAG LondonPFLAG London ON, is a local chapter of PFLAG Canada and is a volunteer-run, registered charitable organization. Through support, education and advocacy, we work to create a more accepting society for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals and their families, friends and allies. PFLAG London helps all members of our community who are struggling with issues of their sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression. We also support, educate and provide resources to parents, families, friends, and colleagues with questions or concerns regarding these issues.
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I am straight. -
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Okay. Can you please join The Salvation Army? -
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Wanna RP? -
Anyone have money? -
I will if you buy my feet pics
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Join a charity. -
Wanna RP?
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Let’s RP -
Stake? -
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Hello -
Wanna RP? - 03 November 2023 (20 messages)
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What is RP? Is new coin? Can it steak? -
yes, i am trans myself. bout to get laser hair removal next week -
Hello -
channel chatty suddenly. So strange. -
Did the guy just get deleted?
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Did I miss charity TF guy? All the messages got deleted -
That's not even the first time he was in this group -
You did -
Damn I was too busy yesterday to check -
okay. I am a corporate charity worker. I am rich. think dental surgeon -
Did he use this line this time? Haha -
Already been a year since we last saw him in here -
Nah he works at the Salvation Army apparently -
Is he a troll? I hope so cuz i cant comprehend if hes serious -
If he is, he can keep it up for years. One of my friends chatted with him every week for months and it was the same. -
It got really weird but it was basically all charity TF stuff -
Yeah. He’s the same charity chess guy, actually. -
He does chess stuff too? - 09 November 2023 (3 messages)
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Sup -
You can buy storage with NCR now. -
can i buy ncr with storage? - 10 November 2023 (6 messages)
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NCR is definitely not following the curve of the market at all. Honestly it's the opposite. SOL, ETH, BTC, all been trending upward the last 30 days where NCR is down 10% to USD or 30% to eth.
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Was always the official NCR Chat
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- 14 November 2023 (7 messages)
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hey Karel you arround -
Doesn’t seem like he is he must be asquare -
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If we are quiet it means we are working. We're getting staking ready and will share some preview videos from the Cooper’s Planet soon.
Also, by early next week you'll be able to buy Neos storage with NCR through your Neos account interface.☺️ -
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So. Live asset loading in the UE client? Is that still not a thing that's confirmed? -
So interested to see what they come up with. They can’t touch the old code base, they can’t do what Neos does in Unreal due to their license. If they do the bog standard coin project, they lose all individuality and what made Neos so special to begin with. I don’t foresee a way they can escape from this
- 15 November 2023 (3 messages)
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soon will be stake. -
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And that introduces any prospects for the project at all? It’s not a unique concept. Nothing to make this project with a history of pump and dump take off
- 16 November 2023 (11 messages)
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What if we actually implemented some sort of decentralized infrastructure project and rewarded people who choose to donate compute, bandwidth and storage resources to handle our back-end cloud with a platform that is actually robust against the bitter tides of fate?
Also I guess we can do something with NCR. Snort it maybe? Basicly I think we should stop hosting the cloud backend as a monolithic Azure service. -
Gridcoin - Rewarding Scientific Distributed ComputingGridcoin is a cryptocurrency which rewards volunteer distributed computation performed on the BOINC platform on top of Proof of Stake.
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Compute isn't the main thing on cloud. It's database and if they're using the built in service for database in Azure then it's horizontally scalable already (I'd hope)
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Decentralized compute or storage aren’t really a good idea. If things are encrypted, then we create the perfect place for all sorts of illegal material to be stored. Plus, data protection laws most likely wouldn’t favor it too highly
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I don't really think this is a good argument. That could be made for any end to end encrypted platform. -
Why not use homomorphic encryption for processing operations instead of content hosting? -
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Gay people cannot read it
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Homomorphic encryption allows you to perform operations on the encrypted data, but you can only decrypt the end result with the unshared private key and original content -
- 18 November 2023 (20 messages)
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Yes. Much to stake. But no one here. Waiting for big amazing update next year. -
You can buy storage with NCR now -
Depends on what you mean. The client is being rebuilt from scratch by a new anonymous dev team, and play to earn mechanics are being shoved in. I've asked multiple times if live asset loading is even a thing in it because all we've seen in the footage is a web browser in UE and the P2E crypto world, but not much more. -
I Just mean the tokens I hold are they still on the same CA or has there been any migration or airdrop, with being new devs
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No idea, I never was in it for the crypto. Just the capability of the software. Though I doubt that's gonna last. -
But to what end? There's no users anymore, nor a platform. It's like buying shares in a company where all the staff walked out and has no customers. I need someone who thinks this makes sense to explain their logic to me. -
You can buy storage with NCR now 😅
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Storage for a platform that is dead 🙃
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Could use it kinda like a drop box alternative
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What an end result -
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Lmfao I mean 🤷♂️ you can buy storage!
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Not likely
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You can try tho!
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- 19 November 2023 (5 messages)
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Lack of a use case, lack of a viable client, lack of a userbase, etc etc.
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There's a whole lot of stuff that's keeping it low
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Frooxius and the former Neos team were the only people who were able to work on the project and give it any semblance of legitimacy or use
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The coin is arguably dead now. Anything else would be a new project
- 20 November 2023 (1 messages)
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I mean, for all we know, the new dev team could be competent.
I think a good start to proving any legitimatecy is to show that the new "client" can load from the cloud.
Ofc, not even that's happening.
If they actually meet the Jan 1st deadline (which, given history, I don't think is very likely), we'll have a definitive answer. - 23 November 2023 (17 messages)
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So, Cooper's planet is in January... When's "soon" when it comes to staking?
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The soonest steak is veal, but the most expensive steaks are aged.
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No one agreed with me when I said that. Now in my opinion neos team whoever they are don’t care about developing neosvr. They are just waiting for bull market. Anyway Ncr price will increase but it is about Karel how much it will. After they get money ( again) it depends on their personality and greed they can develop neosvr or just leave with full of their pockets. -
Hello. Thank you for your insightful input. I would like to address this directly. It's important to clarify that the current team is very much commited to the development and future of Neos. We are not 'waiting for a bull market' but having to work continuously on overcoming the limitations understandably can make the progress slower than desired.
The decision of the previous team to stop supporting NeosVR is their own.
I've personally reached out to Frooxius to try and open discussion on even the most basic updates such as the Steam client and the FreeImage library. Sadly, I had no response and so we just have to go through the VERY slow process of Steam support. Perhaps you would like to email him or the team, maybe you will be more lucky. -
I'm not trying to play the sympathy card here; just want you to get the real picture of how tough it is when there is zero apetite for communication. I would hardly waste my time groveling for attention if we were just sitting back and waiting for the cash to roll in.
While all of this is frustrating, it does not affect the ongoing development of our the new client and the staking launch.
We are on schedule with Cooper's Planet with the launch set for January 1st. 🚀
It's going to be a lot of fun I hope people will be able to just for a moment put aside their negativity and enjoy it for what it is. A lot of creativity, love and hard work has been going into it. ❤️ -
We'll be also sharing new video showcasing our progress in Unreal - this time we have Neos Hub and more updates to the UI.
Should be able to show it next week.
Plus, we've recently improved user experience by adding a 'forgot password' feature on our website, allowing for easier password resets. It's a small thing but adds a lot of user comfort. -
Is it correct that staking will also launch on January 1st? -
Cooper' planet = the staking system, am i right? -
You are nearly right ☺️Cooper's Planet is about making staking gamified and fun. It's tied in with staking process - you'll get to run around, shoot and mine meteors, collect Stardust and level up in your ranks, while gaining staking percentage - as outlined in the current whitepaper.
January 1st is when we have planned to launch the first mining experience. The staking part will commence shortly after and we'll send announcement about exact date and time in the next official update soon. Hope that helps😊 -
Regarding the freeimage library, I don’t see what you need his help with. It is on GitHub free and open source. Compile it and replace the old one. It’s that simple
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Thank you for your response. I hope things will be good for neosvr and clients. -
Will it be able to load assets off the cloud? What about in-game creating of objects and worlds? -
Absolutely, we're aiming for all of this and more - in the long run. We plan to streamline world loading and overhaul things like LogiX to make it friendlier for entry level creators. Neos Store will be seamlessly integrated to make adding items to your inventory easy. Inventory itself is then also going to be significantly improved from its current version that is, let's say 'challenging on eye'.
This is why all the works we are currently doing on the UI are important as they set the precedent to how we wish to gradually turn Neos into way more user friendly software.
But I want to stress again that this will be a gradual process. There are still things to iron out before we can formalize these in a roadmap, but it's the way we are heading. -
So without access to the Neos codebase, your current goal is to allow for interoperability with content made in the Neos Unity client? How will content creation work in the unreal client? It’s been mentioned many times before that the unreal license agreement doesn’t allow for in game editor tools
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Overhaul? Are you sure you aren't entirely replacing it with a different system of the same name? -
Also, the brand new inventory is challenging on the eye? Wasn't the entire purpose of the web UI to fix that? -
I'm a bit confused, I'm seeing comments about NCR. But I'm also seeing comments about attempting to improve Neos VR, just wondering what the priority of neos as a whole is atm? - 24 November 2023 (17 messages)
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Also, wait, it's a yes or no question. At the moment, is the cloud asset loading, the entire basis of neos as it currently exists, at all in the unreal client? -
It's nothing. -
Its very similar to neos vr, just newer and without crypto integrations
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It is not related to or connected to neos in any way and this is not the place to talk about it. -
It is related even if you dont like it, I just answered the question :)
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Correction, they *were* related. Their relation comes from something neos doesn't have anymore, the old team. That and the new direction neos is going in. They aren't related anymore. -
I mean related in that it is very similarfor users, kinda like VRchat would be, if you dont care about the crypto part they are very related
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That's like saying chillout and vrchat are the same thing. They truly aren't. -
Plus neos is moving to change things a lot. "People like iPhones", iirc. -
is ncr token dead? -
Technically no. It's still a functional token. - 27 November 2023 (56 messages)
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What the hell are you on about? Resonite is literally a fork of Neos. Hell, if you showed most people the two side by side, they'd not even be able to tell the difference. -
This weird gaslighting needs to stop, it makes you people look literally insane. -
It doesn't let you buy storage with NCR -
No, you can buy storage with NCR -
I don’t think that’s permissible via Unreal licensing agreements
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There's another VR game named Helios which does exactly that. It is in very early stages of development -
You have to install the unreal engine and their SDK and make content outside the application
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The reason why you can’t make editor tools in game is because this means users of the game don’t need to agree to Unreal licensing terms in order to leverage the Unreal engine
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Depends on what you mean by dead. Functionally, it still has use, but the major selling point of it is now no longer a thing. With the old team no longer working on Neos and the new team unable to add to the current code, it will take a long time before any semblance of the old value proposition will be possible.
A lot of time, effort, and skill went into Neos. If a new client which attempts backwards compatibility comes out, a lot of things will undoubtedly break -
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A is not possible with Unreal. It would have to be B. This basically nukes a major selling point of the OG Neos
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Why would it not be possible? -
Their license terms prohibit the use of internal build tools
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As it allows users to create experiences in the unreal engine without getting a license and accepting the license terms
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In theory, yes -
The worlds themselves are platform agnostic. You’d need to create a new platform which can read these worlds and perfectly replicate them
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Seeing as even Resonite had some issues converting content over, and they were backed by the same devs makes me think they won’t come close to pulling this off
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The issues in Resonite were very few, except performance. In the Unreal client, I expect at least static 3D models to be successfully replicated and performance to be much better. -
A lot of experiences in Neos are even possible because of Logix. Static meshes and assets are the easy part. Logix? Not so much
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Plus, you’d only be able to move over the content of those who want it moved over, which would be slim to none. You’d need to essentially start over, making pouring so much time into a conversion pipeline useless
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Right, I'd expecte them to do the easy part for the first release and afterwards develop the more advanced features -
Hmm... I'm thinking that the inventory between Unreal and Unity clients could be synced, so you can access your items from both -
Wouldn't put it past them to try to import everything w/o consent.
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I really don’t see that to be a good idea. You’ll have content that breaks the Unreal client and content that breaks the Unity client
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The Neos data model is extremely strict
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It's the same service / company. I don't think consent is needed for that -
Hmm... You are right -
Yup.
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Upon thinking it over, that’s likely true. I wouldn’t be surprised if that triggered a wave of Resonite users logging in to delete their accounts and creations though
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That's one way to get the total downloads and user count to spike 😂🤣
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“Wow, look how bright Rome is tonight!”
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Their choice, whatever. If they don't want stay here, it's probably for the better. Neos is starting to look promising to me -
You can buy storage with NCR now -
I don't want to invest anything until I see the final product. Also, I don't create that many things because I'm not a 3d modeler and I don't like certain aspects of Logix -
Fortunately for you, storage isn't an investment, it's just the capacity that you can buy. -
Lol inb4 they manage to get logix working and import everything over and tailroot is still a thing
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If I buy NCR I'm investing in their CryptoCurrency and giving them my money, correct? -
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's like a fancy Dropbox with vore
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Also 666 Members 66 online o.o
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It's a currency for Neos economy, not an investment vehicle IMO -
Okay, okay. But my second reason still applies -
Going to be honest on this one, I'm here to invest and get a return, not much else.
I'm not a creator nor I want to use VR stuff -
Storage isn't specifically a thing only content creators use so IDK what that second reasoning means -
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You may need to contact hello@neos.com about accounting errors. -
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What about it looks promising to you?
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No it’s not. It’s the asset system. If I have a 10mb image and I save it 10 times, it doesn’t use 100mb. The first time it is saved, it uses 10mb. The subsequent copies reference the original
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This means the other copies use basically no storage as they don’t contain assets. Delete all instances of an asset to remove it from your tally
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It doesn't update immediately, it can sometimes take a while. You also need to make sure you've deleted all copies of whatever it was - 28 November 2023 (2 messages)
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Unproven dev team and no real showings of features outside of play-to-earn crypto, and a complete disregard for the niche they nearly completely dominated? Future sure looks bright. -
If we could really see progress I wouldn't care that we've not seen anything from the devs themselves. But the fact that we can't does not bode well. - 29 November 2023 (10 messages)
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Even just devnotes or a git repo with any kind of pushes or something. Going from being used to a completely transparent dev process to behind closed doors
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If they're quiet it means they are working -
That's what Andrea said -
I thought she was being transparent. -
Transparent would be giving small dev updates and not just like ghosting for weeks with the comment of were busy working on the project. Community relations are already tense given the nature of recent events and better PR may help settle. -
That isn’t transparent. Their dev isn’t working so hard that they can’t say hello or give any form of status update. If they are, they’ll burn out anyhow
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No FUD and trolling here please. @malooniac Karel -
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If you think that falls under either of those, I don’t think you know what those words mean. I could just shout on and on about hating NCR with no base and that’d be FUD. I’m offering actual criticism / opinion. Something no person or project should be above
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I’m not going to reduce myself to playground level mudslinging. I want to have actual conversations here
- 30 November 2023 (1 messages)
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If legitimate criticism is "fud" enough to seriously hurt a project, then maybe there's cause for major concern.