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Karel when will staking come out ?

Staking soon？

Didn't it start around March 2022?

The new one

I hate to ask, but will this staking be opt-in or opt-out for current users?

Hi! We appreciate your excitement about the staking launch, thank you! 😊
We also totally understand that it's a highly anticipated event and we really share the enthusiasm.
However, as much as we would love to announce the launch already, we believe it is important to ensure that everything is in place before any announcement - so that we can deliver a safe and seamless experience to all users. So thank you for remaining patient on this. 🙏
We will be sure to share updates as soon as the time is right, together with an explanation of staking process and conditions etc. ✨

Its funny how fast things i anticipated happen ;)

https://t.me/c/1314262393/38541
https://t.me/c/1314262393/38543

I'm friends with the creator. It was a ported project from High Fidelity VR.

This looks extremly sus . Did his acc got hijacked?

It's been around for a small while, but there were issues with some demos being done from what I remember talking to them last.

If you check the links, they're all in reference to AI processing functions and how they could be incorporated into Neos.

Well... I dont want to click on random links.

Yeah. Normally I would have just forwarded the messages again, but that's just me

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Its a local link

Telegram makes those but:

yes, well, realistic person is already close to reality (as one of the developers of the google ai got known by saying that he believes that this AI is alive) but in general... it doesn't even need to be 100% believable. I mean we are having computer games with npc's that know 1-3 lines, thousands of them in the same game for some rpg and we just accept that as "yea thats how games are". If they would actually react to what you do, talk, interact with each other. Would change everything.

If you want to write NPCs for Neos, you probably can hook chatgpt via a websocket in for threir text.

But holy hell that will be a lot of work.

I didnt forward because wall of text

eh, fair

I've just been busy with the YUR reader project, which adds fitness data to Neos from the YUR service.

I think chatgpt is extremely cool, but i anticipate a lot of development related to this in the next 5 to 8 years. We might already reach the singularity by then. And long before have bitesized models in game that dont require web services

In fact, current similar models take about 10gb storage and the calculation power of a normal pc for 1 answer per 50 seconds

I'll have to see about asking Xhaos how things are with their model.

Fun fact: the open source project similar to chatgpt is called neox

(yes, this is actually a total unrelated project)

I really understand your frustration and that nothing that myself or Karel say will ultimately change the way you feel, but I still must emphasize that during negotiation periods (in case of Neos, still ongoing) it is normal not to disclose information in order to protect all parties involved.
Once the time is right, there will be a plenty of evidence that the project is moving forwards. Until then please just understand that everyone is very passionate about future development of Neos and therefore doing their best within posibilities. I would not bother writing these messages otherwise as I am aware that I sound like a broken record.

Also, while I completely understand where you come from and yes, people trusted the project and are indeed very much invested in its future, in this context, I would suggest to use the term "holders" rather than "investors" because buying a token doesn't necessarily involve investment in a traditional sense. And we have to be careful with this because crypto is a highly speculative thing so people might misunderstand or get a wrong idea if we talk about "investment".

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buying NCR when you don't need it for in-game storage is obviously a speculation, you don't need a lawyer for that

Except that some happened before you anticated them 😁

I know that for tax reasons, having it be opt-out could result in users who abandoned their accounts to be put in trouble at no fault of their own. Additionally, it'd bring to question if any 'staked' value can be utilized in-world or if it is settled into its own setup.

I asked about it being opt-in, due to complications about how tax works on crypto in some countries. I got as much as a thinking about it answer, if I remember correctly

hmm... pretty sure that's one easy way to anger... basically everyone.

atleast appreciate that they're the only ones who care about "investors" not getting left behind or more accurately, blatantly scammed.

thought I don't think its wrong to call them investors either. Froox himself said specicially NCR was an investment

Probably more just the issue of being an investor of crypto. And not the company itself. Something about there being investor protections which don't apply here, if I recall correctly

> *By sending Ethereum to this address, you agree to all terms in the Neos Whitepaper.

its cute when you two pretend to be lawyers

> Nothing detailed within this white paper and/or the associated website should be deemed to
constitute a prospectus of any sort of solicitation for investment, nor does it, in any way, pertain to an
offering or a solicitation of an owner to buy any securities in any jurisdiction.

I don't know anything, relaying what I may have heard.

Im not claiming to be anything, I'm just quoting information.

Happy February.

froox: "its a form of an investment"

If that means anything, I dont know.

But I would have it in mind when trying to sweep this all under the rug, guys

I dunno, he's not a lawyer either :3

I'm just a demon doggo who has various flavors of Hello World forever burned into my retinas.

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May I ask who is the right person to discuss regarding partnership? I am with Galaxy Arena Metaverse. Thanks in advance

hello@neos.com

Is for all business inquiries and partnerships

Got it, Thank you!

No worries. But at the moment there is a situation where the two owners... negotiate about the ownership of neos (code and brand) It might be that business partner ships are not the highest priority and answers can take longer possibly

I understand

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Hi any updates about the token NCR?

Check the pinned messages

Thx. Is NCR dead?

never

Will depend on the outcome of the ongoing split between the two owners

Noone can say

ncr is future

Metaverse is future

Still disputes between Karel and Frooxius?

Any utilities for NCR tokens?

Still ongoing. Still an utility token. NCR pretty much is bound to what happens to neos.

What will happen to NCR tokens? Will Frooxius support NCR in the near future? Can we still trust Karel and Frooxius?

Karel doesn't have any issues with NCR, actually it's completely the opposite as he is putting in his best effort to make there is still a bright future for Neos and NCR. As for Froox, I cannot speak for him, or anyone from the team, but I don't think they're inherently against NCR either. There have been other issues between the founders and the team that have been discussed here and everywhere too many times, including various sci-fi theories, and I think everyone is tired of hearing about it, just as they're tired of hearing me say "we're working hard behind the scenes, remain patient."😁

As for this, I believe I've pretty much answered this in the DM you have sent. Updates/announcements will be provided when it's the right time - so unfortunately I am unable to give details, but if you would like to get the official stance - Karel's statements can be found pinned in this chat, and I believe Frooxius is usually active in Neos Discord community. ☺️

Thank you Andrea. Is Karel that busy to come and enlighten us by himself ? 👍

😁 Karel is for sure busy but he does grant the occasional audience. Prolonged periods of silence make his rare and divine appearance more impactful 😁

I have nothing to add, Andrea is communicating masterfully

What's wrong with the people here?
Is this a 🧌 troll gathering?

The issue is between those personalities but for some WEIRD reason Froox decided he'd take the dispute out on the people who bought NCR and helped fund the project. We still don't know why other than that all his devs, friends and bf hate crypto and see this dispute as an opportunity to remove it.

So NCR is kind of in a limbo of uncertainty and its holders kind of on the table

Judging from their own personal statements, yeah they hate it

Froox himself hasn't said that specifically, probably for legal reasons but everyone in his peripheral have been pretty open about it

So when people ask about NCR, if its dead or not, we should be upfront and honest about it and what each side's intentions are

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I wish for better update than worship of the gods...

something legendary?

we do share your feelings, but can do nothing until the mather is resolved in the speed of the law... as in very slowly obviously

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Let’s make a virtual ritual to make it happen

Any occultists in here?

We can create a ritual world on Neos and work some magick on the founders disagreement.

Let’s make Neos great again!

...

This demon doge wants nothing to do with more rituals.

also, just got an email from Sansar regarding investment inquiries, with a rather interesting quote:
"Many platforms have become obsolete by focusing too much on VR and ignoring the billions of users who don't have VR rigs."
They've even taken jabs at VRChat ... though they spelled it wrong.

oh, and they claim that this is also to establish "the first true monetizable VR metaverse"... despite the earlier quote.

I mean, one of the first things I made in neos was a HOGD temple :P

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Awesome. Is still active so I can visit it?

A friend built a Chaos Magick space on VRChat

I've expanded it since then, it's my home world.

Never published it, but if you catch me online I usually have it up.

I'm just poking fitness data and feeding it into Neos.

What are you going to do?

not sure. The devs that made the service are just happy to see their system being used. I just wanted the heartrate data.

in theory, it can be used to host VR gyms and use YUR to record data and provide feedback

How can you simulate the weight in a vr gym? Or a pull-up bar?

I think in the beginning only courses with your own body weight are possible

most I've seen are cardio, with no weights. There's a group that does it often in VRC, who has poed me about the system I've been working on

Keep me posted. I am a ninja fitness expert and have created several fitness apps. Can give you advice if you get stuck on workout design

I'm not sure what I could do, since I'm mostly making the YUR fitness data available to in-world services. I just got 'burnRate' working, which seems to be calories per minute (since the calMin value mrrored the results). It could be used to observe pace and what not

yur data ?

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YUR is a VR fitness service that translates motion data from VR activities into calories burned. https://www.yur.energy/

any sdk ? aside the weird terrible unity one

there was to be a C++ one, but as a simple reader... no

however, I found out how to read the data sent to the overlay, which is what my bridge uses

which is ultimately what I needed, since the SDK stuff is great if you are making a game to supply data for... but not very helpful if you just want the numbers displayed

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is project alive？

yes

？

reallly？

Soon 100x

I use to sell at $9

Now I rebought it again

2025 is big bull

project is alive？

You already asked that, the answer is yes.

so，Why not update the Twitter？

The twitter will have any updates the team feel the need to share. That's a different question though. You asked if it was dead and you can search for messages from Karel and Andrea here etc.

To make your own decision.

what？

non-sense

The project is alive, but there cannot be any updates published for the time being. Also there's a situation that forbids announcing any news temporarily. Hopefully being resolved soon.

Well, I wouldn't say yes or no to that. This issue is more complex than simply that

VR is so hot now

One has clearly never played a megaman title: there's always more than 2 bosses (but clearly cheese is OP and was never nerfed in development)

I just looked at this project fell the game is good, but why not do marketing?

It's complicated. You can find out more by visiting the Discord and checking its announcements, in addition to the pinned comments in this Telegram.

Promised staking for over 1 year and still nothing.

We need update

I'm in It for the long run 🤠

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Alive but with very low pulse 😅

What happened before with this project？

Where to get pico 4 pro

dunno. hard to say almost dead when currently in the middle of a large event, mmc23

oh，so this token was dead ？

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CEO was little too hands off when it came to allowing volunteers to work on the project and they are now trying to take the project over with CTO. Community has no clue of what the future of Neos will be

It's been like this for a pretty long time

oh when u mean project u mean the token and not the game

imo token is pretty stale

Is Karel and CTO in positive discussion? Just tell me if it's positive or negative. I want to see if there is any progress that is reaching an agreement.

I Wonder If There Will Be An Update This Year

One would hope. The poor cloud storage and comms manager could use some nice shiny new chrome

Sorry To Say But I Think The More Pressing Concern Is The State Of The Platform

(and maybe a new LN2 relay for EU users)

Hope so

Market is recovering

Don’t waste time

when Neovr valued at 1b

Everything should be settled

will mean little if there is no virtual land of which to rest my feet trackers on

on the other hand seems pretty clear that not many people think ncr is valued anywhere close to that

karel mentions it a while ago

something about most of the propositions being """unreasonable"""

What Discussion Is Left For This Platform If The Devs And Karel Are Permanently Opaque

I mean, the devs were transparent with updates back in announcements when new bug fixes and features were completed. Any lack of transparency would be due to the disagreement, where neither party can't really say much

Of which you can still read up in the Discord. In fact, much of the reason for things being 'opaque' are in the announcements as well, in addition to updates on the platform's systems

(I think even the Wiki has some tasty release notes)

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let's move on

dont waste time

without the devs, you don't have a platform and thus the idea and concept of NCR is equally lost. Neos can live without the coin, but the coin cannot live without Neos.

Neos can hire other capable developers. Metaverse needs to be decentralized and blockchain is needed for that.

not... really... even then, due to the engine's complexity, there'd be a large chunk of time just to have a "new team" figure out the code to begin with.

People seem to forget that Neos isn't centralized, nor tied to requiring a connection, which a blockchain integration would effectively ruin. In irony, doing such would make Neos more centralized than the claim to make it decentralized.

Have you played Neos?

no coin neos no future for web3

you're dodging the point, but whatever.

Vitalik has said that community is far more important than code

One of Neos' problems is that there are many anti-crypto communist furries.

I'm wondering if everyone is trolling now

Yes, Neos in particular started as a decentralized metaverse, however with the inclusion of accounts and the cloud storage, it is very centralized nowadays and it would break if the services are shut down, yet, it can still continue to exist in the old decentralized form as those features still exist. Hosting worlds is still decentralized, just mentioning as that's an argument why Neos is thought to be still decentralized. However inventory, accounts, and asset distribution is centralized.
Now... using blockchain has a point, as that can put accounts onto a decentralized roster, which is the blockchain, binding accounts to wallets. Assets could be put onto IPFS to be decentralized. But, inventory, I don't know, that'd be more like something you store for yourself and keep backup copies. Yet all this still doesn't require NCR as a token.
So, question to those knowing about blockchain technology and what a DAO is. What would NCR be used for? Any use case would be nice. I have some NCR and I'd really like to have use for this.

It was invented as a thank you for supporters, at a point where neos could give nothing more then this symbolic token

Usecase would be trade (art creation) between users, but technically every other coin would do

Indeed, that's the point why I'm asking. What's the perk that token holders get?

Its an ingame currency. Like wow gold, with the difference that it cant be created from thin air. Its usecase is convenience as trades are done by neos. There are no perks

Indeed, that's the mistake

In the end its an ingame currency. Its value is its limited nature, convenience and whatever feature can be bought with it, like storage

Aha, so there's a perk after all. You can buy storage with NCR

Yes

However it needs more perks for NCR to be valuable in the future. Most likely some even need to be NCR exclusive

But thats the only thing so far. It may be worth a lot more at a point where more features are offered, like implementation with an ingame shop

Yes, but thats all blocked as long as neos cant be reasonable updated

The perks would have to emulate a sink where NCR goes back to the creators. Storage is one of those perks that works that way

As long as neos is in limbo, there is no sense in "what if"s

Also, thinking a marketplace would be what is needed for NCR, I was so wrong

That's why I'm asking for ideas, what perks could be implemented NCR only. They would be provided by Neos and could only be acquired by spending NCR. They would be available to everyone, because NCR can be traded. This would give NCR some value back and holders would be rewarded

And if people don't want to touch NCR, selling those perks could be outsourced to third parties, who would resell those perks to users and the service would spend NCR they would have to buy on the market

The ideas have to be implemented by neos and neos cant be updated until the squabbles are solved

Doesn't matter how good the idea is

i think it makes for more engaging conversation than thrashing other people for no reason

I could go on with thrashing. So many mean things I could say. But I would just make myself hated

However, I'm afraid that even suggesting there being NCR exclusive perks will get me on the bad side

depends

Fair, so yea, good idea to some point. But i am of the opinion that any exclusive is bad, very bad. Killer of Innovation and the opposite of neos and the idea of decentralized systems

It makes a mockery of all what it stands for

if i twist my words i can say that buying storage without any real money involved is a pure ncr exclusive experience

Directly buying, yes, Patreon indirectly

Doesnt make it a good idea or complient with the idea of an open, decentralized space of equal opportunity

well yea.. by the time you get to buy storage with ncr it is on a central ledger
neither is the storage decentralized

it is a terrible idea to fully decentralize something like storage though

neos already allowes p2p asset transfer if you've uploaded something that then only exists within that session
and it's notably incredibly worse performing

Well, there's ipfs and Sia as examples how decentralized storage might work

capable of storing mass data and still being very quick to access somewhat reliably?

and you also ask users to give up personal space and network performance, even if it is compensated

unless I'm missing something it just seems more expensive for everyone involved

i would be interested in it as a *fallback* mode though
no server is 100% reliable
others' computers even less, but maybe you can trust your own judgment to keep your local copy of storage safe

If it is a DAO, ve NCR, can vote and can distribute the profits of the platform.

good point

Because of the recent spike in cryptocurrency, the twenty-somethings I've met recently are looking for pfp avatars like azuki, bayc. They are all willing to pay $5w for a cool avatar.

DAO doesn't need NCR though. Also NCR was never meant to be a share in Neos

never say never if you are not the boss

I think it's in the whitepaper or something

things are changing

those are some bold claims
you've certainty never experienced the power of purchasing storage with ncr..

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However, if only storage is a perk to buy with NCR, then all the funds from minting might only be allocated to pay for the cloud storage services, why would it go to development then?

No New mints from Patreon......?

Mints happened recently, so yes, the mints are happening. They usually happen at the beginning of the month.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but due to how Neos operates (something I'm confident only a small percentage of this chat know of), if say things were to use say the IPFS with a financial incentive backing of NCR or whatever... and bear in mind, I haven't dabbled with IPFS directly but recall people running HTTP gateways in the past to load content, so I get the general idea... wouldn't each small change constitute as a transaction? Given that ANY change, such as a small movement of an object to a humble logix node, would all count... wouldn't that create a barrier to entry of content creation, thus defeating the entire point of the platform itself?

Well, with IPFS you could pin the assets on your PC, so as long as your PC is logged into IPFS it can serve the assets and others who download the assets would cache them for some limited time and also server those. What you could do is, pay others to also pin those assets, so they are available if your PC and all those other nodes that cache those assets are unavailable

That also means like, you don't even need to bother with caching assets, as IPFS is doing that very well already

For assets, Neos implements an asset transfer system utilizing the local:// uri. It streams content over the LNL protocol between the host and clients. It is used any time an asset is uploaded into a Neos world or when an asset is regenerated in world (like a texture/mesh modification, or taking a photo). It would be pretty smooth to be able to utilize that as a means of reducing egress and ingress traffic from the cloud and host, and also to make Neos more mesh-like allowing clients to stream content directly to other clients.

But given how cheap egress bandwidth and cloud storage has become, it doesn't seem like it's a problem that warrants solving, unless you really want a fully p2p Metaverse

Upload of the normal internet user is very low. Like often 1/10 of their download. Neos does have and use asset streaming and if you invite someone to your local world (not home world, but the loading world) you can test this by only having assets there that are nowhere else safed (only in this loading world)

They will stay local only saved on your pc and streamed. But it is obviously very limited expecially if we talk about more then 1 or 2 guests

As long as the URI didn't change, the Neos caching should still apply for revisits to the same world but I personally have not validated that. It certainly does help on hosted cloud sessions

Well, you can test that this way. Usually things sooner or later get uploaded to the cloud, expecially if you save or leave that world

But if you rigg your loading world like this, you can test this reliable

Also its good to keep stuff there when you don't have enough storage space for all of your stuff.

I mean... you can already also use http within Neos, which can be self hosted or otherwise. The problem I'm seeing also reoccurring is trust. Some people here do not enjoy the concept of a central hosting system, and others have issues with trusting hosting to everyone... which is fair, because let's face it: bad actors are always going to be a thing.

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Hi bro, for business collaboration who should I talk to plz?

Depends on the collaboration. Any critical Neos related business inquiries should be sent to hello@neos.com.

Continuing on: IMO, I feel doing something akin to Mastodon instances might be a nice way to have a happy balance... but with recent news, I do concur that the concept is also confusing to people who are wanting to just jump in and look around. Neos does have a slightly higher bar to entry, so I think the central cloud system will be around for a very long while... which, ironically speaking, is also the only way to download the application in the first place so...

At the moment neos can be downloaded from the cloud of steam or on the website of neos

In two different versions. Additionally there are unique links on patreon

Correct, but say the version with 'all features available' is the one that matters (I begrudgingly say that), then it is only available from... a central web server. It is backed by Cloudflare with a CDN, but I'm not sure where the files are grabbed from with the launcher.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=n-b82mDCVso&feature=shares

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fMQrW5zd2TM&feature=shares

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LmSJ50sG7ec&feature=shares

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Hi , who can I contact about partnership ?

Karel

I was contacted by one of their bots yesterday. Sadly they nuked the convo.

yuck

If you are interested, you can go to the offline event of the Ethereum. They're having an event in Denver on February 24th.

https://www.ethdenver.com/

The standalone launcher downloads this .7z file, then unpacks it: https://assets.neos.com/install/Pro/Data/2022.1.28.1310_MMC21_2.7z

It finds what version to download by checking this link first: https://cloudxstorage.blob.core.windows.net/install/Pro/Public

...huh. Neat.

i love how it says mmc21 xP

Will there ever become an update?

It already is an update. No need for it to become an update if it already is one, right?

I want to be able to build in vr again

Alot are building right now for the MMC23

I was about to say... the memes of building more important worlds to vibe in have been going around like nuts

Anyone wanna build a FNAF style horror game in Neos?

I'll dig up the name, but there was a group that had started working on one and they had made some pretty good progress but I don't think they ever published it

Oh 😔

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groxxy ? he was working on one

Wrong. Mints are worth same amount USD. Please review Blockchain as no mints happen.

I dont think theres been a buyback for ~133 days unless theres another account I havnt looked at

No mint on Blockchain for many months

I don't think the Patreon 'mints' cause 'mints' to occur on the blockchain as well, at least every time

even then, the patreon's numbers haven't been all that decent so... what would 'mint' with?

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Solemnly declare: NCR has failed, and there is no chance. Everyone has been cheated. Now someone has jointly prosecuted. Please contact me.

What are you talking about?

People can still use NCR ingame so it's not failed

NCR NEVER FAIL

We hold NCR, we participated in the ICO 2 years ago to finance Neos. Now NCR is worthless and we don't know what to do with it. There is no information indicating Neos Credits will develop in the future.

You can use it ingame

I just want to invest. I don't want to participate in the game.

These are entirely caused by their personal problems.

I think it's up to him to explain the best question.Karel

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Need good news very soon

Froox blew his chance, I hope he's busy building a new platform or he'll regret this in his older days

Big time

That sounds like a you issue, honestly. This means you have no clue what you really "invested" in and are now upset because you won't get a return. You took the gamble and lost.
People who actually use the platform are able to continue to use the system, regardless of the coin's value. Unlike other services, there's a functional use for the coin, which has frequently been used.
Maybe actually try to look around what you are pushing capital into. In two years, there were many events on Neos that could have boosted the value, especially with partnered events, and the value didn't change.

NCR was never an investment token. It was something to mint to support development of Neos with a possible utility in return. It was to give Neos users a way to support Neos and maybe get something nice in return. Also NCR was thought to be an in game trading currency that could be used to pay for many different things. It could have worked as a kind of investment thing, and frankly I tried to invest some in it as well, however it was never meant to be that. Then came people minting NCR with the intent to sell at ATH, that gave the big rise and hope but then that huge drop and disappointment in the token. Of course some people lost interest in that token, when this pump and dump happened. I still hope for some recovery and for developments that would extend the utility of NCR. Got to see what the future will show

I really hope for a future for NCR and the developers considering supporting the token and getting finance for development in return

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hmmm..... that last join has me raising an eyebrow...

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Haha is that my alter ego joining us here?😁

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Hello, Great day, who could I speak about marketing proposal? Im the Marketing Manager of one of the famous KOL here in the Philippines we do promote NFTs and crypto-related projects along with your socmed, on YouTube, Twitter, and telegram, may I know who could I speak about it?

Any critical Neos related business inquiries should be sent to hello@neos.com.

Thank you sir

Any time, i wish you luck with your inquiry

Thank you sir, looking for to a positive response 😊

have a great day

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Ncr family have a niceday

Any new announcement in neos please any thoughts and idea new planing with neos or not @malooniac

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This Is Probably True But The Denial Has An Effect

As Long As Froox Continues To Be Manipulated They Will Never Realize Their True Potential

lost-lost

why not win-win

What are you even talking about? The current situation is about two friends with a side-project under a company name... until suddenly so much money was involved that everything got so complicated that the two friends are now two enemies

So now they have to split, but how do you do this with your new enemy? By law... and law takes a lot of time for everything

Its not the solution thats difficult but to finally commit to a solution both are unhappy with

As in, whatever compromise the law finds..

You're Avatar Is My Response

One more prove that you have no idea what you even talking about. You should ask around, perhaps you will figure out why i have this avatar in the end. Or you do as you always do, speak out of pure ignorance

Hmm... actually, how much of Solarix is involved with the other projects prior to the FrooxEngine/NeosVR? I'm guessing quite a few?
I wonder how much those projects, as insignificant as they are, technically are also slowing things down, because even they have to be considered if the split has to be handled in a legal matter.

Regardless, attempting to play at contentious rumors as a basis of banter will not make anything go faster, nor make the end result feel any better once it does eventually come

welp, this is depressing

we... *sigh*

going back to bed

Court cases take a long time always in Europe i found out in the Netherlands such a thing can take 3 years

uwu

There may be taxes on uwu and owo, look out ;)

is ncr token alive？

it was dead？

There is no court

It will take long in Europe

Beurocracy is very slow

Karel CEO says court waste of time

It is yeah

There is no court

What do you call it

There is no nothing

Exactly

兄弟 这个币是不是已经凉了

We waiting for update to be given from Karel CEO

There is lawyers involved so it takes long time 3 years

No lawyer

No court

Yes lawyer it was said here a year ago

well... there's clearly SOMETHING going on or there'd be more information. You don't have both parties go 'hush hush' without someone having a lawyer.

I have heard nothing constructive from the other party lawyer. Anything that can be achieved there is an expensive stalemate. It would be better to focus on actual solutions.

Said many months

"No more lawyer" karel

Staking take one year

Just because a person says something you don't like magically makes them go away. That means things are going to be continuing a lot longer, if anything...

Karel state update to coin should happen while legal happen

But there is no update

When is coin update? Staking take 2 hours work to make happen

There probably multiple layers till money runs out

Then three outcomes:
- He forgot/is busy
- Clearly they were wrong
- They lied

It's good the way it is now

I don't want to believe there was lie. I believe in the NCR. I don't think users do....

Why we need staking now

It's In-game currency

I wonder how much of it is ingame 🤔

Most likely the lion's share

The 1K ETH Neos holds is pumping 🚀

It's on the move again?

how is everyone today

doing alright. Getting ready to jump in and complete more work on my YUR fitness reader. Trying to figure a way to best display the kCal delta on and how to recreate the YUR.watch accessory.

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Well that sounds like fun!

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YUR coin?

...I am not even going to humor that. Especially since I am not a representative of their team

*points at random short string* is this a coin?

Furcoin

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"You Do As You Always Do" My Activity Is Sparse I Am Not Sure What You Are Referring To But That Does Not Match Reality

Wow, you have no idea what i am referring to. If you could see my face, thats a face without any surprise on it.

But yes, perhaps i am a bit of an asshole, so what do you think why does my avatar has a paci in his mouth. You tried multiple times to make this your greatest argument against me for no reason, i am curious, literally hoping to shut me up with it (hehe) instead of making an actual point. What do you think is going on?

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neos moon

Ncr moon

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Hi there! who can I reach regarding guild partnership? Pls notify, thanks!

Not sure what a guild partnership is, but if it's related to NCR, send an email to hello@neos.com

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I Did Not Ask For This Information But I Hope You Feel Better Or Something

I Take It This Chat Is Un Moderated Just Based On How The Few Conversations Ive Seen Here Have Gone

It is moderated

There are 2 moderators and Karel

Is there a list of appropriate hashtags for questions? I'm trying to work on fitness resources for VR platforms and currently and actively operate on the VRChat platform and even in light of the recent on goings, I'm curious about Neos as a platform to host and house as a platform to increase general use-cases for it as we expand.

I'd direct you towards the discord https://discord.gg/NeosVR

Is there any outstanding reason why this can't be discussed here?

You can ask things here as well but there is a significantly more people on the discord along with a lot of questions already answered and being searchable

There aren't really hashtags or separate topic things here as it is a single channel.

Fair, I was just reading the rules wiki after reading Karel's Statement to the community so I wanted to make sure I had full understanding of how this specific Telegram community was under operation. Thank you for your input.

There's alot of things that I need to ask the moderation team and probably owners of the project here in regards to VR ethics as well as use case technology that should be addressed in regards to bringing major production and actual tangible currency to the platform for services and thing associated.

I appreciate the input of course.

If you want to ask the moderation team, they have office hours weekly for open questions or submit a moderation inquiry ticket which will give you an authoritative response from them.

Tickets can be made at https://moderation.neos.com/

I'm in conversation with some of the dev team as we speak as they are giving some light into the platform and how it runs. I appreciate the directions being given. I am hoping to hear from someone. Anyone here about the platform from an ownership or leadership position respectfully as what I'm building would require some important aspects of what and how neos is operated to ensure the protection and safety of my user base as it continues to expand.
Your input is appreciated.

contract？

Contracts aren't something I'd discuss in a telegram group based environment, I'm just here to see how operations are run.

Remember that all contact options are described here: https://wiki.neosvr.com/Contact_Us

Are you sure you're talking to a Dev Team member though? We have a lot of people here and sometimes it can be confusing. We've had issues before where people have assumed they were talking to team members but were actually speaking to Mentors or Moderators or even community members, which has lead to some confusing conversations sometimes.

I confirmed internally that they are, their inquiry is better suited for hello@neos.com anyway.

All sorted :)

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0xdb5c3c46e28b53a39c255aa39a411dd64e5fed9c

What is that

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I'm very well aware and sure that I am discussing with the dev team and not Mentors or moderators.

This means the address of the token on the ETH chain

With the timing of which it was presented it seemed as though to be a response to something I was typing, my apologizes for the confusion.

avali are beautiful

<3

well if the name doesn't match one on this list with some kind of proof then its not a team member
Aegis_wolf
Dante
Frooxius
Geenz
Lacy-Bean
Nexulan
Rue Shejn
Shifty
Theo
Outsider
Ryuvi
Canadian Git
ProbablePrime
Veer
Andrea Maloney

Sure deal, I've made sure of it both in discord and on the neos platform as for now with things my plan is to wait for a bit longer before any sort of specific further conversations I want to have. It's been a while since I've been on neos (about 2 years)

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You forgot Karel.

🤣

Where is Karel i haven't seen a message in a long time 🤔

Here’s one just for you

Welcome back

How is it going

🧀

Bullish 🚀

let's move on

NCR moon

Eh... might as well post something made in the platform: https://twitter.com/FlameSoulis/status/1627481417205653504

awesome! did you have much trouble syncing each channel?

actually, not really. I designated one of the tracks to be the 'master' and have the positions on all the others resync every 0.5 seconds. This was done as a precaution, but overall, it worked out just fine

that's pretty good-

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Any news?

No... as always, any important updates will be pinned in this channel and announcements in the Discord.

It's not 3 years yet now has it

2 more years

ncr moon

not on my chart 😏

soon

hmm... I just noticed something, but I would ruin any data if I explain it, so silence will be my ambassador

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BlackRock is offering an exchange-traded fund (ETF) that will focus primarily on tech companies that are exposed to the metaverse.

are we on the list Karel sir？

Considering the complications of the platform, I'm doubtful that the exchange would want to be involved until after a solid foundation has been established, for which there has not been.

sooner or later

ncr has bright future

Money survives all hardships... including when there is no land of which to stand on.

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What 🤣

How do you have a Chinese name written in Russian

The countries are quite close to each other, so cross cultural people exist and are usually awesome.

Karel @malooniac Are these two people working, or are they scammers?

These guys are like a bunch of scammers, they say they're working hard, but nothing has happened in the past year.

The whales lost trust and started dumping. Do something, please.

The answer will be that they're hard at work again and can't tell anything.

what the hell's march 1st?

MMC's conclusion and I'm guessing the voting period for the event?

alot of the work happens behind closed doors but maybe you find a few open sessions (or just look at whats already published)

Karel @malooniac I don't think these guys have anything to do with MMC23. Do they even have access to Neos?

Who are the guys you are referring to?

karel and andrea

Thanks!

That's correct the main neos team are not members of the MMC team.

As for access to Neos, I dont know what you mean.

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It's like being at a concert and realizing you're better off just dancing and cheering in the crowd instead of trying to out-sing Matt Bellamy * (*replace with whatever artist is relevant to you or silently judge my music taste 😁)

We are cheering to all amazing MMC creators and we are always happy to see so many people having a great time in Neos ✨💙☺️.

Anyway What is it that you do? I'm really curious. It looks like you're really doing nothing.

is ncr token dead？

Interestingly, doing nothing is not nearly as easy as people make it. Should I ever succeed in being absolutely zen idle, you will be the first to know.😉

What is dead may never die 💪

That was a really good pun! thats your job. Now I see, it's your job to just give a lame answer on Telegram.

You didn't even think about the marketing plan, did you?

That's not very nice.

What a smart person you are ☺️ Now when we have cleared it I hope we can move on back to more interesting topics that I’d hope that exist. 🤞

I really hope so. I don't want to do this either.

Why would you want to market a product, that is still more like an early alpha. However, Neos VR is very useable as it is today. It might not be friendly to new users, but once the initial hurdles are passed, it is an awesome experience. My guess is, that marketing comes later, when these quirks are worked out.

I just hope CEO and CTO negotiate soon. That's all.

no doubts

Future is bright