- 13 October 2022 (28 messages)
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great job putting words in their mouth, when they have a full note on their twitter about it.
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I bought a car seat as chair 😂 -
It's better than a office chair i read
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And ofc really handy for racing setup i think 😌
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“This advance unreleased version they are working on in secret” meaning Neos? -
Because Meta has one
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And yeah, Meta is taking the metaverse seriously, sadly….
- 14 October 2022 (12 messages)
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haha, yea, true. But Neos IS awesome in what you can do. Its definitly not the biggest problem neos has -
only if the valua of NCR would go to new ATH....... -
facing a huge loss here.😪
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To be honest I still feel neos doesn't need crypto to be good. -
Because honestly the game itself has too much potential to die.
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Does anybody knows what’s the average daily active users on Neos?
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Thanks
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Thabks
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If metavers will prevail then the only advantage over the tech giants is the eventual decentralization. Because the others have money and can probably do something like NEOS better. For this reason I find crypto as a way for NEOS to build a protective moat against the competition. You should not always see the negative in Crypto. Otherwise you might only see the negative in the Metaverse. There's so much you could write a book about. - 15 October 2022 (43 messages)
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Maybe just a closesed-loop token like Second Life
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They already are doing it... An open and Neos-like metaverse
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Neos had a big advantage… being the first…
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Maybe is not too late for Neos, investors + great marketing could be what Neos needs to survive.
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Right now the future of the metaverse is in the hands of four companies…
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Personal opinions
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I just wish crypto wasn't so speculative and like, well... one thing i notice is that a lot of people are super greedy. What tends to happen is people only care about the number going up, which this type of crypto (at least NCR) was a gamble from the start. It was originally intended to grow naturally as the game got more players, but well, metaverse craze happened, was a huge pump and dump, hurting NCR in the process. I'm not saying all people think this way but this is what always seems to happen.
People could lose (and have lost) serious amounts of money and NCR feels like gambling. It's not the best when i sell something and have a weird currency that isn't reliably valued. -
Though this is coming from a content creator's perspective.
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Yeah, crypto in general feels like gambling. Im down 80% of everything I’ve invested in crypto… one day something viral will happen and will be up again to be down a short time later
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It's way too volatile.
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My goal is to do the classic safe investment. Put 2.5M in the S&P500 and get a 10% annually from that… No idea how to get 2.5M btw.
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Crypto is gambling -
most of the crypto community, at least the very vocal part seems to be extremely greedy in my experience too.
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again, not everyone is
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but some are.
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And of that list, Philip had an entire talk about the fundamental issues observed with crypto, and given he's back observing the project, I'm not sure if the Lab will have any interest with it. No idea how to find it, but he gave a really neat talk on Twitter's spaces thing or whatever all about LindeX and the secret sauce behind it -
You are unfortunately 80% down because you don't know or didn't follow the rules of the game. But a little luck is of course part of the game. Where there is much to lose, there is also much to win.
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Who does this?
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Meta
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Meta builds a centralized shit based on the ideas of Mark. This is like a horror movie and not a metaverse.
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crypto goes thru cycles , bullisch and bearisch and indeed is extremely volatily , newcommers offtenly hear about the buzz when a strong bull cycle is comming to an end and then dive into crypto at the worst time possible . 80-90% decline happened each bear cycle so far , cycle tend to complete every 4 year (also the time for a BTC halving to occur)
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btc and major crypto survive each cycle (so far) the smaller ones die and new ones arise each cycle , i made a stupidid mistake to invest a good amount in NCR at high prices . it remains to be seen what NCR does next bull cycle ........
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and turn it around : peoiple investing now in crypto have a good chance to see there investement go 3-10x within 3 years
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Volatility isn't unique to crypto. Look at the charts for Netflix, Shopify, etc. Or penny stocks. Or oil going from negative to $100 in under a year. It's a tired old argument. -
Difference is I can live without Netflix and the price of oil fluctuating is something that is still manageable and with alternatives. The value of a currency fluctuating madly, however, is something that if life is relied on, it turns everyday into a roulette. Making all bills universally higher or lower by large percentages daily is not good by anyone's eye, unless life simply doesn't matter
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The Bretton Woods agreement was collapsed in 1971. In those 50 years since the collapse, the dollar has been over-issued 54 times, leading to severe inflation. -
Is open now
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I like Neos too
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Have any of you tried Sansar before?
https://sansar.com/LinkWelcome to Sansar, an oasis for self-expression, exploration, and live events in a virtual world, where players shape the narrative as it unfolds. Join us on a quest, or create your own. C’mon, your world is waiting. Play on desktop or in VR.
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It was made by Linden Labs. Like a Second Life for adults (VR)
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I wonder if it’s similar to Neos
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Open? What meta?
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The same principle as before.
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I've been there before, however it was liminal spaces
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I thought they closed it already
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Also, I think I found the metaverses that meta confused with being the only relevant other metaverses. AltspaceVR and maybe Rec Room. Both don't have legs
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However, we pretty much know that the only true creative metaverse out there is Neos VR
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I can do you one better.
I did and it was okay, but I worked ironically for its competitor as a support and engagement associate, mostly for server trouble shooting and technical assistance. The reason it's ironic is because High Fidelity, my previously contracted job, was run by Phillip Rosedale... who founded Linden Lab. -
I'm not sure if Sansar is exactly running too well, since it was sold off and is no longer under Linden Lab's umbrella
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I am only a crypto gambler but I admire how the Neos community loves this product without making money with it. Just as a drive to create something cool and have fun together. Respect 🤙. I hope that the problems around the project will be solved
and you remain the protagonists. - 16 October 2022 (38 messages)
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I agree, and that’s why it hurts so much to see the founders fighting, Neos getting stuck and Meta dominating.
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Meta is hardly dominating anyone.
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Crypto has disruptive potential.
If it catches on, some giants will fall. Because in order to play in this market, they would have to destroy themselves.
So it makes sense for Neos to come up with a meaningful web3 concept. I don't mean pump and dump. I hope the founders see it that way and will settle the dispute. -
... not sure what that has to do with Meta but okay
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Meta is one of these giants
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It's nice weather outside
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Of course progress has been made, however nothing of it worth an announcement yet
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I found out the 1.09euro pizza got more cal than the 3x300 gr pizza which per pizza is 100cal less and the 3x pizza costs 4.60 whilst individually boxed pizza are cheaper and more cal
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So I'm literally gonna save more than a euro buying the induvidual boxed ones
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So instead of 3 days pizza it is 4 days for the same price
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And canned ravioli 400gr actually is now 9 cents cheaper than before 😮
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Was 80 cents now 71 cents
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That's like a whole meal in a can
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Is canned ravioli cheap in foreign countries too?
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alex, just letting you know your posts are breaking rules 4.1, 4.2, 4.5 and 4.6. -
which you can read here: https://wiki.neos.com/Neos_Telegram
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yeah I guess... Just annoyed about the highly off-topic noise. Would rather there not be anything posted here than that IMO
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I sense that this was meant to be more entertaining response to the question about the progress on negotiations.
Which in fairness was quite amusing, and while I am thrilled that canned raviolli are now 9 cents cheaper (even though I prefer spaghetti hoops myself) this is hardly an appropriate topic 😁, so please @Alex_A_avali kindly let’s revert back to relevant stuff. Thank you😊 -
What are some things you have been excited about when it comes to VR/AR/metaverse?☺️
I got quite hyped up by this Quest Pro demonstration at the weekend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUIE2l_9ig8
We can all think whatever we like about Meta but with this kind of hardware, I belive VR will gradually go completely mainstream and that is great news for the future of Neos also, as with more platform agnostic and open source approach ( if this is the road we will eventually embark on), most of people will be able to access it and find some life enhancing or fun use case. 🙂
What I am also curious about is if the preference of users will turn more towards MR and AR or we will continue to choose the more immersive VR route. Or both.
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Yes I have seen some cool stuff with Neos camera, I belive it was Orange, making a lot of fun videos. The future is very exciting for sure🚀 For once, this kind of insane passthough will really help to make VR more social and less isolated experience, which is something quite problematic right now, in most cases, not just for fun & social use but for educational use as well for instance - you can imagine that handling the whole class of kids wearing headsets which make everyone "blind" including the teacher, has a potential for some shenanigans 😁
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shame they removed the 3d depth sensor from the release model of the Quest Pro -
yeh they removed the depth sensor due to well... the prototypes had the same effect as a old phone that was removed from market... it could see through clothes
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as a owner of a explorer edition the last firmware update was the best thing they did for the thing
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removed all google services unlocked the bootloader and on dev website handed us the source code and sdk.
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probs software but right now its been confirmed its just a standard camera
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no depth
- 17 October 2022 (7 messages)
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Honestly the quest pro and pico 4 are neat
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still curious what valve is going to pull out
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Not to beat a dead horse but if i'm getting paid, I want currency with reliable value. What if someone like... you know, gets paid and then the crypto goes down so they can't pay for food or something?
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I wonder if that new headset would be a combination of a steam deck with an index
- 18 October 2022 (39 messages)
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why u sold at big loss
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But you still have money tho
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Better loss than nothing
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never will be nothing
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U JUST fud
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CHART WONT TELL U WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT SECOND
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keep faith on NCR
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That's not what I meant it's still worth 23 cent on bittrue that isn't nothing
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So there is still value 😌
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His choice was to sell at loss
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I still think that there is future for NCR but i played since 2019 so NCR as a ingame currency and not as speculated currency just makes sense to me for example ingame store where you buy and sell items with NCR
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I don't know, for an actual currency for use on a market, it needs to be quite stable and not that volatile as it has been last year
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Yes that's volatile because speculated currency
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With ingame usage it will be stable
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sorry, but it doesn't work like that. In game currencies are stable because they are regulated with sources and sinks. NCR however doesn't have that, it is a fixed amount of tokens and the value bound tightly to demands
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Linden is a good example of stable ingame currency
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exactly
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Yeah so ingame market to buy and sell items with it then makes it stable
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L$ is carefully kept stable by controlling sources and sinks to keep the amount of circulating L$ matching the demand, making the trading value very much stable in the USD
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Yeah
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However, due to the high amount of buy backs on NCR, it might be possible to Solirax to control the amount of NCR that is in circulation to also keep its trading value stable, which might make it possible to actually use it for a marketplace
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Exactly it will be good 😌
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however that will bind a lot of money into NCR needed as backing for liquidity
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The issue is that if you want to view L$ in relations to NCR, you'd have to make L$ a stable coin with an exchange rate controlled by the market value. There is no L$ outside of Linden Lab's control, but anyone can take NCR out of Neos and make with it as they please. As a result, its value can only be controlled if Neos itself holds the majority, and even then, it'd only be able to control what can be controlled with (i.e. no excess, no way to stabilize).
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in some regards, despite the fact this would be stable and allow the currency to be... a currency, I have a feeling that also goes against the spirit of a token currency, especially one with a finite number.
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I guess that's the bigger problem with adoption there. Two worlds that don't seem to go well with each other
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Karel what are you doing? Is it your only job to press the like button on Twitter? I don't think there's anything else you do - 19 October 2022 (3 messages)
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Froox was right.The CEO is not doing anything…
- 20 October 2022 (29 messages)
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Stablecoins are coins that basically attempt to keep their value related to something else. For example, HFC used to be 100 HFC for 1 USD. In a sense, L$ works in a similar way, in that it's value mostly remains related to USD, with VERY small adjustments based on market demand.
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eh... that'd defeat the point with NCR.
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if you are going to use it in a market, then you are adding more steps for the transaction. At that point, you render NCR under another currency... which remove the reasoning behind it (since doesn't that mean the value is really based on the stablecoin?)
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not sure I'm following what your trying then. If you are buying assets via NCR, only to have it be swapped to a stablecoin during the transaction... then isn't the stablecoin the one really being used, rendering the overall point with NCR redundant? It sounds like you are doing a double layer transaction for really no reason at that point
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but that still means adding in another currency to solve a problem with the primary.
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uh... you sure? Neos only has 2 currencies: NCR and KFC. KFC is the testing currency, which has functions already bound to it for testing. NCR is the primary currency of the platform at this time. Within the eco-system of the platform, there aren't any other built-in options so... yeah, NCR, at this time, is the only option, crypto or otherwise. Anything done outside of Neos is strictly outside out their hands, so if people exchange otherwise, it's not within Neos
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Consider whether to cooperate with some popular games or animation companies
Create some NFT to attract more people -
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the thing is... you can already do that to an extent. Non-functionally, of course (in that you can't make an arcade game and exchange that way). That was basically the idea to have NCR encompass all of that. The issues still remain about price volatility, especially with current services that DO use NCR at this time (namely storage expansion), which is still price locked. To that, did I spend over $1600 on more storage, for myself and others, or just $28?
- 21 October 2022 (32 messages)
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Ncr will be zero dollars? -
Wtf
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someone thinks the value will be zero? I mean, it's gone down by a lot, but even I need to know how much each is worth so I can buy from people so I can get some sweet storage space
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I would like to ask how many people in the community are in favor of a form of organization that has no entity, similar to a DAO. Because in our previous experience, a kneeling revolt is not successful. Only standing resistance is effective
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What do you mean by that. There are multiple mention of fully open sourcing this project, but that has to come and be done by the actual owners of the code, whoever they may be
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Without that, this is essentially "resistance" without any traction behind it.
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Neos isn't only a name, its a software mostly. Without the software neos is just a website and a crypto currency with no use short of exchange.
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Sorry to say that but store, features, NCR and everything else is standing in line behind the power struggle in neos. Until ownership is solved, one way or the other really, neos (or whatever the name of the future project with the neos code will be) is at a total stand still and whining about it will not change that.
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Here we go. Personal attacks just tell me that you realize i am right.
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that you used bad words...
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I don't know whats more funny. That the bot deletes half your posts, that it speaks a language the majority doesn't understand or that it is actually admin
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Well, i never flame, i also don't judge people for anything beside their actions. I am a pretty open person in general and like to keep it real. I dislike to feed grand illusions of any kind and try to solve things in the most efficient and reasonable way.
Like i would like it for neos. There is no realistic chance of "resistance" of what the owner of neos do. There is also no chance NCR being anything without Neos. And the name neos itself is not much more then just a fancy word. -
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None - 26 October 2022 (4 messages)
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off topic, but this message bump resulted in me finding the valve cover for one of my tires when I looked down to check the messages.
on topic, to save the copypasta: Any updates will be posted within the Discord and possibly the main Twitter account. Maybe it'll even become a pinned message here. - 27 October 2022 (31 messages)
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*heavy sigh*
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I mean, I'm in Neos now
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+1
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Ncr will melt people's face
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holding aswell , no sense in selling now it's bassically worth nothing compared to when i bought
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How do you know that?
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don't know in what sense but i guess i would like my face to melt🫠
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can anyone explain me how the NCR tokens are released? -
It is. But I couldn't understand, that is why I am seeking help.
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Perhaps?
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heading off for the night after playing quite a bit of Viewtiful Joe and Paper Mario in NeosVR.
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Ty bro
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Ok
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Never invest too much which u can’t afford
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If you actually want some NCR, it is cheaper to get them on an exchange currently. However, what is your actual question?
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I was watching this YouTube video by ThrillSeeker. The story of Neos was beautiful before the crypto-bros.
Now I understand the Neos conflict. So, Frooxious wants to stay out of crypto and Karel don’t stop believing in crypto. Now Neos is divided into “two Neos”… but nobody knows who owns the code. -
Neos VR: The Untold Story of a Metaverse Tragedy
Hello. Today I have a full on documentary of probably the most tragic story within the entire VR industry. Developers shafted, a $500,000,000 market cap shriveled into nothing, and a community left torn. But there is still hope. Actually something interesting I came across, Neos had a Quest/ Quest 2 and Oculus go version in development as well. Interesting addition. Basically though, crypto tore Neos apart from the inside out, no matter how compelling the technology. Thank you to everyone that participated in my dozens of interviews. This is one of the largest "journalistic" videos I have ever done and it took a lot of work, but I hope you enjoyed it. Much Love, Thrill My links: Twitter: https://twitter.com/Thrilluwu Discord: https://discord.gg/2hCGM9BYez Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/thrilluwu Neos discord: https://discord.gg/eNYu4xbhVF
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So sad… if the founders just focus on creating for the community (thinking outward) they could easily overcome their differences and get rich quick as a result. It seems like they don’t have a complete understanding of Neos’s potential
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My personal opinion… forget about crypto. You don’t need crypto to move a virtual economy at the beginning. Start with a closed-loop token like Second Life… consider crypto later. Crypto tends to attract crypto-bros.
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And its not really about crypto. Sure crypto lead to the problem in the first place, but "the problem" was money, not crypto as such
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And its not really "the problem" at the moment, its the impass between the two owners... they have to solve this between them and clear up who owns what before it can go forward. Crypto has no part in that, one way or the other
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I have no problem with that. Just saying that this is not what NCR is about. It was meant as a "thank you" for early adopters and to keep track of people that put money in it, as a p*nis meter
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For neos it doesn't mather that much and its not the issue one way or the other, but ncr is not worth much without neos. Its an utility token
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One thing about ncr is the free transfer of ncr inside neos. As a currency in a game this is "the essential" part
- 28 October 2022 (85 messages)
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Hewwu ^^;
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This is something I'd personally prefer. Reason being that it allows more options for everyone, not just in relation to currency. Gumroad, for example, has a full API system, so it'd be possible to use this system to interact with Gumroad or other services to establish confirmation of purchases, allowing creators to just directly give items to users and skip the setup steps. In theory.
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Heck, with Neos's desktop view, people could just shop online, do a purchase in however, and if the seller supported it, their items deliver right then and there.
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hmm.... no. Sort of, but no. In a nutshell, the 'bored furries' were always in a uphill battle trying to convince people to try a confusing platform. The whole crypto thing flew under the radar, until that event occured, resulting in it becoming a highlight. Unlike the people joining in at the time, most people in the other VR platforms despise crypto entirely, down to some groups outright changing tools if it had any relation. Now the same people had "a confusing platform" and "a crypto nightmare" all in one package.
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Not to mention, it's safe to say that if the people who DID join in during that time actually signed into Neos, then it's population would go up but... it didn't. It stayed neutral to going down. Some people LEFT because of that event.
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....except that did happen
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in fact, Checkback before the video was made, and Thill outright wanted to AVOID Neos after "being scammed by the devs".
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people don't care
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I've seen several Discord groups change moderation tools all because the one they were using got involved in accepting crypto as a substitute payment method. People are VERY sensitive to it, even if you don't see it in function
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Yeah? I watch his videos. I also watch other's and talk at times with some other people. People are people.
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nope
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Just hiding something doesn't mean it magically goes away. Despite that explanation, some people still want nothing to do with Neos, even IF the Steam version hides the reason people have issues.
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again, people are THAT sensitive.
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sort of alright? I haven't checked it much, but I know in the beginning of the whole EAC thing, their servers needed a lot of help. I know most of the VRC mod makers now are over there after MelonLoader's creator joined in and after realizing MelonLoader doesn't work on Neos (the latter of which I wish I was kidding).
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well... I'm busy hanging around right now watching videos in my world, but during the one influx, things worked well. Technically speaking, content delivery servers did slow down, but not enough to stop everything entirely. Support wise, the team went into full swing as the welcome world had 100+ users for most of the time. Community people spun up headless servers to aid in people checking things out and requiring further help.
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The whole "why didn't people leave VRC and go to X" topic is... complicated. There are many factors involved with it. Friend groups possibly splitting, comfort in prior usability, inability to transfer content and even the lack of it in other systems by comparison. That's all before the usual topics brought up, such as Neos's UI concerns, performance concerns, and so fourth.
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That is already done for at least the avatars of one maker
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Not really that. The community wasn't really affected and it also wasn't looking for arguments. It was the mentality of some of these crypto bros who bought a lot of NCR to pump the price up and make people buy NCR at ATH with FOMO so these few could sell it for a huge profit. The plan worked out really well when Karel started the buy backs, so these few didn't just grab money from those affected by FOMO, they could also take a huge amount from money that was supposed to finance Neos
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not to mention, most of the community had NCR via the patreon... so, if anything, people who had large amounts internally were also annoyed by the values being played with.
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At least one thing for sure, this was NOT an exit scam. The buy backs have reason, it had been an exit if those didn't happen
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Which I think is really sad though that it happened the way it did
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The minting was supposed to go slow and steady so the value of NCR continually goes up. However this event of Facebook going Meta made NCR bubble up quickly and pop
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We all saw what happened to metas stock price after that it fell a lot
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It's the whole metaverse name that got bad press now
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But it can recover i think when people see how useful working in vr is
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Meta's stock price doesn't matter
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Oh, it is a functioning product/service, however not for the clients that you think
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I'm very sure there were some bigger players who used the hype for a pump and dump
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What feature improvement could NCR have?
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that isn't an NCR feature though
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The goal to ending ICO early was to allow for easier trading of NCR, which was actually a bad idea for something that was bubbled up that much
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except the part where the situation was even earlier, when Valve said "No crypto on our platform." It had Neos temporarily removed for 2 weeks while it was disputed. So you can either keep on a popular distribution platform, which was the only way to get Neos at the time, or kiss that relationship goodbye. The hyperinflation of the currency only exacerbated things further in relation to the crypto involvement.
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and no, you can't use the "download it from the website" argument because guess what became a thing after a particular event?
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and as for a market, you first need consumers, and right now, the consumers of a particularly large market (*cough cough* VRC *cough*) have also made their voices clear about their desire of crypto involvement (I.E. None). Yes, the whole "but it uses less power" thing is now and around, but the damages are already done.
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heck, the creators made their voices even louder during a certain announcement with VRC and crypto relations. That made the discord "very popular" for a decent while
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If the narrative was changed, such that more people actually joined Neos and contributed by either establishing their own market or creating content, I think the tune would be very different. However, this never happened. The amount of people who did come into the platform from the wave of NCR supporters (until they weren't) was so small, it barely made a dent in the user count.
Meanwhile, despite the uphill battle, the EAC drama resulted in a large spike that lasted a decent while. Crypto had zero involvement with that; if anything, it challenged users further because of their desire to not be involved. No system updates nearing a full year (the security one in January withstanding), and that was accomplished. -
People told me froox can't do updates else he will lose the ownership of the code so a resolution need to be found first before any update
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Yeah new
- 29 October 2022 (12 messages)
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They do not want to put any more things into Neos before the dispute is being solved, even though they are still working with the code base and improving it
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Figured as much
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Also, speaking of Security, seems openSSL is at it again with another critical security exploit. Again.
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and now that I'm home looking things over, looks like Neos doesn't seem to have the OpenSSL library anywhere.
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I see
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So, how’s Neos right now?
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Good
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huh, yeah, just looked at the numbers myself. Definitely up tonight
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YES!
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also, got screen sharing working.
- 30 October 2022 (43 messages)
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uh... considering that the two owners can't even figure out how to handle the current situation, I wouldn't even be able to humble with a contact to inquire if I had the desire to.
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....maybe selling his share and baling, and letting it be someone else's issue? That'd honestly be pretty reasonable and would be nice for them to have something to retire on.
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The platform is not for sale, for that you'd need it to be publicly traded or to speak to the owners. hello@neos.com
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excellent.
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zuckerberg should buy it🤣
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Its false.
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🤣😂🙃
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......and if my aunt had a fallus she would be my uncle......
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I think atleast several billion
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i've heard multiple trillion....
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Lol
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It doesn't matter anymore anyway most people that currently play and have been playing it will play it always there doesnt need to be new updates added or new people playing it for the others they have everything they need already in it
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When you think about it they have gone a year without updates and still play it
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As long as it's still useable nothing will change
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Basically the usecases people play Neos for are already finished
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You could say it's complete
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Like the things you can do in it are already enough for the people that play it and when they need something they add it via mods simple
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It probably can function like this for a long time till a critical part needs to be updated
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I see that now
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But people can update the YouTube file themselves too to fix the YouTube not working because of the outdated YouTube exe
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The Neos Telegram community is the most negative I know of
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Well it's quite well made to be able to last long without updates needed so it's positive
- 31 October 2022 (124 messages)
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People hate positive things in neos ？
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no, but these are not the halls where positivity is common. Most discussions are regarding a platform's future, but rarely with experience of having seen what is happening in it.
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Oh I know Neos future alright same as it is right now
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Altho it needs some rebranding
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"neosvr the metaverse" to neosvr the furry dating sim
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😬
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Many people will get this one
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....please no...
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Altho it needs some advertising
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We all know what neosvr is now tbh
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And with the right name and advertising there will be a lot of users
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For what Neos is used for now it's complete
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But you can take that to advantage since only requires the store to be setup which can be build outside Neos and then you but avatars and such on it and then copy paste it in game and it spawns out the item or avatar all of this can be done already without froox needing to update the game and then NCR could be used a lot
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Since the outside store would use NCR then and with the targeted advertising a lot of people might play Neos it might not be the same people that wanted a different future for Neos but it is something
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The advertising can be done outside Neos too advertising it as what it is atm which is furry dating sim it will attract people for that since Neos doesn't need additional code for this path
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I'm looking for the solution that doesn't require any Neos updates
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Which this is
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what about the non-furries in Neos? I've seen plenty of snapshots by other users and despite the prominence in being discussed, there are quite a large number of users who are something else.
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Yeah but the majority Neos is used for and for what it is at this stage
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For other usecases it need to be updated
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not to mention... if anything, that just shows Neos's functions to encompass entire systems within itself.
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Like think of it as what is currently possible in Neos as it is and what it is used for in the current state
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Rebranding and advertising Neos for what it is used most commonly and then having a store you buy things from with NCR all without Neos requiring any updates is the best solution
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Welp, I'm leaving this discussion before the fallout begins.
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I'll be in the bunker watching Youtube videos and drinking matcha lattes.
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Hi Alex, I use Neos to do ground breaking research in the area of head and neck surgery, opthalmology, exposure therapy, empathy Training, patient education etc.
Your exposure to neos features does not guarantee the entire feature set it provides. I'd encourage you to explore and learn before you judge and make blanket statements like this.
Right now I'm preparing to give a presentation at an event in Sydney in November on virtual surgical planning techniques available in stuff I've built in neos. While simultaneously assisting another user with measuring a vestibular occular reflex and in about an hour I have a meeting about patient education in the area of mandible surgical reconstruction where I have a model of the hospital used and all the rooms and clinics a patient will need to go to.
But you're fine to just say that other uses aren't possible right now. -
I'll be in my corner, speaking to doctors surgeons etc all round the world.
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Remember my brain is in Neos too: https://i.probableprime.co.uk/221030-jA62dxRmXSD88q0apwsS.gif
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No i work with medical professionals. Sometimes i have no idea what they are talking about but eventually all medical issues are collapsed into stuff that I can do in Neos :D
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This is 1 usecase again and without updates it can't be advertised as such to be a medical research tool
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People that want to use Neos for medical research expect updates and such
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But NCR needs to have a use without Neos requiring updates with advertising Neos differently and then building a outside Neos store where you pay with NCR and then people copy paste the item in game it can work without needing a update
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It can be done only this way
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Like second life is a success because the way it's advertised
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Sure you can do other things in it
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But because of the way it's advertised many people use it so the currency has use
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So the same could be done for neos
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All without requiring any development of the game itself
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NCR could have value again this way
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Ncr will rise
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1,..? i listed about 7, and we're using it without updates. We have a paper being published imminently and several research grant applications submitted.
While updates would help us extremely they aren't strictly required. In a lot of cases a slower update rate is actually beneficial as it means less churn in our experiments and validating the ethics and data validity of them. We usually have to pin our experiment PCs to versions so they explicitly don't get updates. -
Yeah but how will that help NCR getting a use? You need many people for that but there aren't many doctors using Neos
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you are trying to find a situation for a tool, rather than understanding the usage for it.
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The function of NCR was to bridge commerce in such a way that the value of an item or service was based on an agreed upon system of value. This was L$'s purpose and function, and is why we don't see 5 price tags on many items; you just have the one (the currency of the platform) and locally already understand the value of it.
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in a sense, Neos already HAS the basic foundation to allow such commerce to naturally occur. If you wanted and were able to find someone else who would accept the current payment, you could commission someone and pay via NCR right now. Goods with sellers would have to be one to one, but technically speaking, the option is there. And that's just commerce.
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I can vouch for this; I've had... at least 3 commissions done with Neos in mind. NCR was not accepted.
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eth fees has come down drastically now
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quite easy to swap ncr to stable if you ask me
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i don't do step 7 and 8 and step 1 tot 3 i have already done , other steps are just 1 minute to execute
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Its not obtuse, its encrypted. -
Its secure.
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You dont need coinbase or a CEX.
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You simply subscribe to patreon.
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i just considered buying NCR to sell it with profit , so far it seemed like the wrong bet , but someone here few messages back told me my face would melt later on , not sure what that means but i'll hold on to my ncr anyway🫠
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It depends on thr scope of your project and how much NCR you need.
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I've literally done a metamask swap for NCR through Uniswap and moved it into NEOS and it only took 24hrs to get it into the Engine.
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It was really easy, it would be faster if the NEOS team didnt manually distribute the NCR token transactions himself.
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To avoid abuse and fraud.
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Some banks like paypal put a long hold on money.
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Up to 72hrs for bank transfers.
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Some startups have to wait months for millions.
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Paypal is trash.
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Yeah, if you want to get fined 2.5k for what you say online.
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It doesnt clear instantly.
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SWIFT banking system is SLOW and Paypal uses SWIFT for international transfers.
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NCR/ETH clears in 20 seconds.
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I've had situations with paypal freezing thousands of my own money.
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From a harvard computer scientist mind you.
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And refusing to pay out for weeks.
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Also Fiat is not truly stable. Thats a misconception.
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Eaten up in gas fees?
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What are you talking about?
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you got to refer to something in order to prove gains or losses when trading
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Can you show a hashtable?
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eth fees have been much lower recently
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Yeah true.
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Ever since PoS merge.
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I think it ultimately isn't supposed to be stable.
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Its all done by design, central planners decided this existence.
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Yeah Ash, I totally understand your perspective.
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Which is why NEOS Developers should be leveraging Layer 2 Ethereum.
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Vote ncr to be listed in latoken
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Also having an actual DEX built in NEOS would be great.
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That way people can swap to Dollars inside the game engine.
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I've done trade with thousands of NCR.
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But right now, its worthless.
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Bro, I'm talking about entire worlds.
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Lmao
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Im a whale
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Yeah we seen how unstable fiat gets
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So tbh things like gold are the most stable
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the big advantage of all ingame currencies, no mather what, is small payments that take less time then actual money transfers
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