- 15 January 2023 (21 messages)
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Generic as in, you could say that to nearly anything anyone here said. Sergej also has a full name (happens but unusual here) and has only written that single sentence, not any other input before. Thats all indications of a bot, but doesn't nessesarily mean that it is. -
I didn't write that^^ but the expection is that an automatic answer will come that obviously will not match with what was said
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Or that no answer will come, what mostly confirm its a bot
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If an answer comes... yea, will most likely a wtf response ;)
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As for me:
https://fxtwitter.com/FlameSoulis/status/1610545245216993280Flame Soulis (@FlameSoulis)Here's some more footage of playing my #SteamDeck in #NeosVR with all the room effects active. Mind the subpar Tetris play; I really have no idea why I was not doing as great.
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Eh, looks fine for me. I should try poking Nvidia's settings for some extra detail options.
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Only issue is the weird rendering difference in mirrors, which enable some things I wish were on by default
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thats not actual a problem of vr, but depends on your pc and vr headset
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i have a pretty old headset (by now), the steam valve index. Before i had the first oculus that really had a bad resolution. But since the valve index and a pc upgrade it does look pretty crisp
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Might need to get a new headset at some point
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yeah. The visual differences when you upgrade the headset's resolution is immense. I say this as someone who had a DK2.
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computer obviously also makes a lot of difference
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well... yes and no. A better computer means better performance, but visual fidelity will always be held back by the outputs... namely the HMDs
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yeah. That's the bare minimum for VR back even when the CV1 was new... and that was before the whole 'Ti' business
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yeah. in VR, I can get about 120 FPS on average in rooms with at least one or two other people, but about 60-70 when in areas with 15+
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in desktop, I can run 165hz consistently in 80% of all conditions.
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mind you, the 120-144 is also when I am streaming my deck, have chrome open, and with face tracking (which burdens the system further due to no onboard processing)
- 16 January 2023 (1 messages)
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None - 17 January 2023 (88 messages)
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i see some lapfox in there, nice -
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you can find the latest updates pinned here, pinned in the discord or in the discord announcements section.
Now before you say "but there is no updates" I want you to re-read the message I Just sent. -
still same applies
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Hey we don't have an "Admin' we have a team.
I am a member of said team and regardless of my opinions on the matter my message is accurate. Your holder update is above and applies regardless of your opinion. -
Ok well next time perhaps state that in your original message. This isn't a command line program or chat bot this is a community. Explain your question in more detail and you'll get a better answer through being nice and clear.
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Hey we don't have an "Admin' we have a team, you've been told this before, and you've been given an update periodically. You can find it in the pinned messages.
Making demands is never ok. Asking politely is. -
I haven't provided FUD at all, I've just provided Facts.
You didn't ask nicely you just said "Update?" -
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Now that's just rude, can I remind you we have rules here in this telegram and that not following them will result in moderation action.
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We don't have a "real admin" we also don't have an "admin" you've been told this 3 times now.
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Oh did you switch to morse code?
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to be fair, the only pins of this channel are from karrel
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and he pretty much just pinned his view about how neos needs to decide its future
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elaborate this
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ProbablyPrime is as much as admin as you can ask for in terms of neos
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That's a permissions thing. Admin doesn't mean anything here.
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You're looking for an update from our CEO so ask for that
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Using "admin" is just a touch rude.
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the ceo didn't give any more information since the pin. The admin of this telegram group has no connection to ncr
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Ok, then ask that nicely :) Use words, sentences etc.
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FUD is thrown around too much.
Every project needs people who criticise or provide feedback that can be viewed as negative, its how they grow. Every major company deals with it and its fine.
Screaming "FUD" is like walking into a restaurant and asking anyone that didn't enjoy their food to piss off because their opinion is invalid.
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"cancle culture"
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they didn't, its not in the steam client for reasons beyond control of neos
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its not allowed in the steam client by rules of steam
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it is in the client you can download at neos.com
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Because neos is currently stuck between the two owners that don't find a common way out. Also the bubble burst, it was overvalued. Neos is still in development and has only a small amount of players. Noone knows what happens if neos gets actually released/continued to develop. But at the moment, its stuck.
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one year and 3 months past
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I hope it gets decided soon, I love neos and its community
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no progress
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i love ncr
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same, I like the idea of having a crypto as in-game currency
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well.. its in-game storage tokens at the moment xP
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Ah x'3
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thing always change
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we need to embrace the web3
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i think it is an otherwise fun idea
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which is the future
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ye, imagine buying items/avatars in-game via crypto transactions
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and also using crypto as a way to support creators
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do you do SAND MANA OR GALA
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i think the idea that it needs to be specifically crypto is limited, if it will only be within the platform
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ncr only
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JUST GOOGLE IT
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YOU WILL SEE THE NEW WORLD ANOTHER WORLD
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i have too many storage tokens in my pocket
can't you see, I'm already the richest kitty on earth -
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Next years will see so many changes in computer games in general. We now have games where we actually tell npc what to say, often only a single sentence. Lifeless, very limited content and unique characters, small amount of interactibles and near no reaction to interactions in the world. Now we see what ChatGPT can do and how you can create believable characters by pure description of their character and abilities. The things that will change in the next 2-3 years will totally catch the whole industry by surprise. It would be a shame neos is stuck for all that time in a limbo^^
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I wonder what integration will be possible by then.. and if you would really want it
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virtual environment makes that much easier than physical robots
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yes, well, realistic person is already close to reality (as one of the developers of the google ai got known by saying that he believes that this AI is alive) but in general... it doesn't even need to be 100% believable. I mean we are having computer games with npc's that know 1-3 lines, thousands of them in the same game for some rpg and we just accept that as "yea thats how games are". If they would actually react to what you do, talk, interact with each other. Would change everything.
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there are already some that are pretty convincing, surely
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I mean... that's a bit of what happened with a certain other platform, though in that one's case, it was an even more extreme by streaming user audio channels to a cloud based caption system to translate voice to text for scriptable processing. Such event handling would be neat in Neos, but making the module would be an absolute test of patience
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I... think someone however did already do the text based thing already, but I'm not 100% sure.
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There's a few mute helpers that do this live, but afaik they all use a web browser with webrtc to perform the transcription and then relay that back into Neos via a websocket -
websocket 🙏
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ah hmm... I'm guessing a plugin service could be used to simplify it a tiny bit, but at that point, it'd still be the same thing so... hmm...
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A plugin that independently acquires the audio stream locally, or were you thinking of something that utilizes the Neos audio stream directly?
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For NARA, I utilized WebRTC and Mediasoup to handle the mic and audio to and from the radio, and then using user positions in Neos I was able to use the WebRTC spatialized audio feature to mimic the spatialization in Neos so the user always hears the audio coming from the radio with near real-time updates
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I decided to go this way as it only required a web browser - which everyone has - and didn't need to act as another user in the world or required tapping into the Neos audio stream or a plugin
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NARA is the Neos Amateur Radio Association, we operate amateur radio directly from Neos just like we are operating radios IRL
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its not that difficult, but no, i would not use the existing test-ai for that. But with the release of the 4.0 in 2 month and hopefully some new models you can download (there are already two nice ones that get close) this will soon just be easy and convenient
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hello friends
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hewo
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Yeah, I wish I could avoid the chunkiness - but I can't grant WebRTC perms in their browser automatically XD
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...what if it was made into a browser app?
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with chrome, you can assign a webpage as 'an app' with the following:
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not sure if 'apps' get special exceptions
- 18 January 2023 (49 messages)
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not sure how people get frame drops for worlds like that. I had to stress my world with intensive stuff
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hmm... I have ideas still that sacrifice nothing (tttttttyping in VR is 'fun')
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who are your favorite neos creators?
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don't really have one, and my only creations are logix and unique systems
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Hi everyone☺️, I hope you are having a fantastic start of the year so far and continue to enjoy Neos regardless of the ongoing situation. We understand that the silence continues to be very frustrating, but we want to assure you that we are working hard behind the scenes and have some exciting updates in the works. Rest assured, the wait will be worth it.☺️
So in the meantime, we would still like to ask for your patience and understanding and especially not harbouring negativity against the current team or any of the admins of this channel - which for the record to make it clear, the only official admins/moderators of this channel are myself, @NonnyFreedom and Karel. But thank you @ProbablePrime for your prompt and valuable responses as always. There is no doubt that you have the best interests of the Neos community at heart. And of course thanks to all of you, active members of the group - for being here, being patient and keeping the channel alive (and on occasions full of amusement😁)
Really, thanks guys for all your support and stay tuned for updates...it's coming!☺️🚀 -
Hi @OwOSlushee2 , my message really was not intended as a direct response to your message, apologies if that seemed this way. And I am sorry you have some issues with your world. I hope you manage to find a solution going forward. I understand that building something for 80+ hours and hitting a dead end is more than frustrating.
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I am sure a lot of people here or on Discord will be happy to help if you explain in more detail. Neos community is absolutelly fantastic this way.
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Haha no problem, there is response to a response to a response😉😁
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I don't want to sound rude. But I don't like this message. At this time it's been over a year without any valuable information, that is publicly available to anyone. I would never assume, that you would spread wrong information in any means, but by just saying "hard working" which was already stated multiple times, without us knowing if there is even progress at all. You could say anything regardless of if it's true or not. But I do appreciate your message and statement. I hope there is some progress, to round of this message positively. -
that'S JUST YOU not the most people else
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any updates on Ncr>
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their own message said there were no updates
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why
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I think that most people who actually use Neos would be in the same position... except that NCR is love storage, NCR is life extra space.
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Thanks for the continuous support Milady 😍 We believe in you and Karel. -
would love to see more
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uh... no? Last update was back around November of 2021, with the last minor update to the software in January of 2022 for a security hotfix.
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hmm... was the Discord poll thing really that long ago? I thought it was closer to the last major platform update.
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Wow... huh.... the polls were actually in December. Color me surprised. So they are only just over a year old now.
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Not sure or aware of any relations with another coin. This channel only really is in direct discussion of NCR's token and Neos the platform, so not sure what Kucion has to do with NCR or Neos's current condition. Of course, if you want something that works right now, then there is the Neos platform itself.
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The more you know
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...I just had my patreon running for headless support, even during my hiatus when the menu system brought out the devil in me I wasn't quite ready to figure everything out.
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Hmm... I should have sold, but I am fine either way. I didn't sell the lion's share of doge that I recovered from a 2016 wallet, and I'm still okay.
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But it'd have been nice... until taxes, which would have been a nightmare.
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In either case, I still hoard my NCR, because having storage space until the heat death of the universe is just amusing to me
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🍿🤭
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wen airdrop -
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We would like to list your coin on our website, so someone authorized send me a message. -
I agree with you there :)
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especially because the fallout was nearly around mmc, it was a bit unfortunate for competitors
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some of the pain goes away once you realize how valuable storage space is
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- 19 January 2023 (94 messages)
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I totally get where you're coming from. It's been long. Too long. Crazy long. I am cringing myself every time I write a generic message like this, trust me on that, but it is just the way it has to be for now.
We cannot give any information that would be against company’s interest, I am sure that you can understand that.
I also understand that my words may have very little meaning and credibility at the moment. I feel like some new-agey wannabe motivational speaker at a funeral, trying to pump up the crowd with some positive b**t and getting nothing but blank stares.
However, I still want to assure you that we are doing everything we can, given the ongoing gridlock, to provide updates soon as we can, while also protecting the company's interests and respecting all parties involved. We do care about Neos, its community, players and all of you. -
i still accept it for 3d printing but that's a niche thing, but most don't want to use NCR for physical goods 🤷♀️ -
I'm interested in your services.
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Can you DM me?
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just keep the ncr for storage space
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You need the client from the website, but other then that you can directly use it ingame for that purpose and 25 coins go a long way already.
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well, you never know what happens that can make you unable to pay for the patreon or have other priorities ;)
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I sometimes use the words "time of change" when i talk about global movements that upset the balance. Like currently based on the wars, recession and rapid AI development
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The combination of factors that upsets the balance of working force and life. I like to be always prepared if such events happen ;)
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Its good to adapt, but its also know that if you make a plan today, for the end of year, it will probably not happen. (Seriously, thats true currently)
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Nice, well then i don't have to preach this principle to you ;)
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I totally get where you're coming from. It's been long. Too long. Crazy long. I am cringing myself every time I write a generic message like this, trust me on that, but it is just the way it has to be for now.
We cannot give any information that would be against company’s interest, I am sure that you can understand that.
I also understand that my words may have very little meaning and credibility at the moment. I feel like some new-agey wannabe motivational speaker at a funeral, trying to pump up the crowd with some positive b**t and getting nothing but blank stares.
However, I still want to assure you that we are doing everything we can, given the ongoing gridlock, to provide updates soon as we can, while also protecting the company's interests and respecting all parties involved. We do care about Neos, its community, players and all of you. -
there you go ;)
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u couldve just put https://t.me/c/1314262393/38635 instead of repeating the msg
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thats.. news though
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NCR & NEOS to the 🚀 🌖🧑🚀
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Last I checked, the only coin doing anything with the moon was doge, which was a point behind the meme. Everyone else got jelly and started using the same thing, as if it'd pass along some secret blessing.
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The dust on mars is mostly non toxic, but similar to earth, part of it is. But the dust of the moon has never seen erosion. Its like millions of microscopic glass splinters. If you breath in the tiniest amount, you will rip open every single blood vessle in your lungs and sufforcate in your own blood.
The gravity on the moon is also much lower, so muscle atrophy will be much more severe. On mars that could be countered by simple activity regiment, much easier then now done on the international space station.
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my mind is vivid and i did not want to visualize that aaaaaaaaH
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It also has a weaker atmosphere, so radiation is also a thing...
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yea, well, if you remember the picture, you remember why mars isn't actually THAT bad, compared to most other places. It has air... i mean not oxygen but co2. It has a weak protection against radiation, but at least some. There are a lot of natural tunnels and sources of water and the comparativly mild temperaturs.
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I mean its a lifeless dessert, but its not the moon.
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We just send some smokers and take away cigarrets... statisticly you would lower their risk of cancer.
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You overestimate the amount of radiation^^
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problem is can the dirt there provide the correct nutrients.
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Yes, co2 on earth is bad, but on mars its an important resource
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Its an easy to access c-atom, for anything from making fuel to food or building materials
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and while it takes a lot of energy to take it away from the co2, the waste product is oxygen... also useful
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also, Radiation != EMI
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its questionable if we could use the soil, but its not really required or that useful. We would probably extract and filter a source of nutrients directly
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And use hydroponics
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That's something I've been meaning to look into as a fun side project... however, I was missing a 3D printer until now, so I couldn't do much with it
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To use earth is good if you have a lot of it... Like outdoors or if you have a lot of space. Hydroponics is better in a cramped space when you have enough resources to chemicly split stuff.
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I mean.. if we could actually use the cavern of mars directly... you would have a lot more space. But you would needs to trust in the structure and material of that very cavern. Thats a gamble we would not take for a first mars base
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So any base on mars will most likely be at a place that is partly protected from dust storms (beteween mountain/low point) on the surface. With optional use of the mars surface material to throw that on it to increase radiation protection.
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Does Mars exist as a world on Neos?
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Hmm... type it into the search, i am not sure. I know there are multiple worlds that have parts of mars. Like the mars rover
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That alone is fun, because you get a sense of scale
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Prepare a Crypto bro Mars planet for the case that NCR should rise again.
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The legal battle is about the ownership of the software
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And its not even a legal battle
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well, go ahead ;) i wish you a lot of luck, seriously. I have no stake in that, i just want the development to finally continue
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Well... yea, the have the split obviously
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Ah... ... half of what you say makes no sense
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👉 NRC To the moon and beyond 🚀🌖🪐
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Frooxius IS the core developer of this, Karel is the CEO that was managing the money
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🍿🤭
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The software itself can not be "just rewritten from ground up", its the combined work of years of labor
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Well, not his, but it could be argued that the code is part of the project that is part of the company they both lead togehter
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Froox may have to fight for the sole rights to the code
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thats... ... the code is literally the brainchild of froox for the last... 9 years?
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I suppose he could rewrite some of it, but the efford alone to get even close... you don't understand at all
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Metal Gear Solid was done in many game engines and always just a small piece of software, every time a new episode
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What was taken away was the World/Story
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Yes and there is the hope that froox is still working on neos, hoping to finally get control back
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So that he can release his software as soon as he has
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He obviously will not patch a system he doesn't know he owns^^
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It doesn't mather what the name of the software is, the branding
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It is the software itself that is basicly irreplaceable and thats what the fight is all about
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The control over this code
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Ok, lets end this discussion. In my opinion, you have no idea what you talking about. Crypto (well actually too much money) was the issue that triggered all this, but its not the great devil that destroyed it all. Neos just got "too big" to just being a small piece of software in development and a struggle broke out about the licencing of this software now
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Thank you
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That was the conclusion for me, all is said.
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...especially for an international project...
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Hehe, i think i take my chances *sigh*
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What -
...oh boy...
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Funny
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May be giving too much credit... I'd wager 2004 during the AIM era...
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Lets calm down... "i hacked your internet" or "i tell my dad" isn't helping anyone here. This is just something that has to be solved by the two owners. Sadly it takes exceedingly long
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no... they haven't... just stop...
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It's taking so long that I stopped caring and moved on to another hobby!
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😱
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...I'm too old for this...
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Counter productive way to fix the issue. Congrats
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I am sure that he will be exceedingly happy to have his biggest enemy banned... i mean... what to you even trying to archive?
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I mean, you have here a literal babyfur telling you to grow up... how is that for context?^^
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all sides stop you replying what they want, no point in arguing
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I love watching stupid people think they are solving a problem when in reality they are making themselves look stupid. You have to have some sort of neutrality with both sides in order to try and solve something.
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...so... you basically just want the platform gone... in short... also destroying Froox's own dreams in the process of your renegade actions?
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if you all was responsible you would've got a mod involved @NonnyFreedom I'm fed up of seeing reoccurring arguments for the sake of it.
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I can't wait until someone drops you out of here. You aren't solving anything. You look dumb right now.
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It's... not... *sigh* You feel you know so much, yet display so little...
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anyway, Nonny is pretty good at what they do. Andrea picked a pretty good moderator, especially since their duty curbed the heavier trolling that did occur in this channel in the past. Things have been slower, but we did enjoy the calmer situation...
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all involved party's just chill its been a year of reoccurring same bullshit and slushie i know your in here just to start fights and after a year of it I'm just sick of it, the game is in a standstill there is no fight never was this is a private matter that should've been handled internally but everyone thinks they know so much just sit back and relax
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...that's... not Neos's fault...
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you think this is gonna help? Lmfao
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I'ma stop wasting my time on you
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I've already told you to use -RiftTouch as a launch argument and clear your cache from the local install and check permissions and give me a log in the past , i have tried to help you but you have ignored me at each turn with the statement "the website version works"
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so from that i refuse to help you at this point
- 20 January 2023 (79 messages)
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Additionally... even without that argument... I tested the DK2 a few months back and... it worked fine. Used an XBox controller to move around, old school style, but I was very impressed going down memory lane again
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People rarly want help, they want to be right. To be wrong means weakness and that can't happen. I am sure its the software that is at fault, that works for basicly everyone else but it sure isn't MINE!
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not helping, but yes neos is a buggy mess allways has been but thats why i love it sure i hate restarting it 30 times a day just to use my face tracker and vive eye tracker
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Bonus points because most of them don't like karel :P
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https://imgur.com/a/R7EOEt6
Anyway, There we go: Oculus DK2 in Neos. Still works.NeosVR vs DK2Post with 0 views. NeosVR vs DK2
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give me a log its all i need a log file
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from you starting the game
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Steam\steamapps\common\NeosVR\Logs
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run the game and give me the latest one
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Additionally... I do recall there being mention of parts from the log...
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send it in dm since files cant be here
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it's zoomed out. In actual view, it's very screen doored.
https://imgur.com/Mwy6jzOLinkPost with 0 votes and 2 views.
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tbh people keep asking me best pc to build for neos without a price limit ... but it mostly falls down to optimisations to do to vr and steam settings
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yup....
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RTX3090, stock clocked 12900K, 64GB of DDR5 6400Mhz RAM... can get max FPS in some worlds, but only 60 in others
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but if u have money ... and want loads of frames latest gpu from nvidia + AMD RYZEN™ 7 5800X3D and some fast ddr4 turn on resizeable bar in motherboard... steam advance options shown go to per application settings set throttling to fixed and max top slider leave second one install openfsr and turn up the sharpness Do not use resolution scaler in normal menu leave at 100 go to per application and change resolution per eye
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980 was bare minimum years ago... sadly even my 1070ti that died struggled to run neos
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bare minimum for neos id say is a 1660ti depending on how optimised world is
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but have i ran it on lower stuff yes
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some people think storage plays a part in neos and considering my cache and database are not even on my pc they are on a nas i wouldnt say it does rly matter using infiniband
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1070 ?
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1700 doesnt exist
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same
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and last i recall a ryzen 3 3100 exist but not a x but idk
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well... can confirm that a bit. My cache and install are on my 3x RAID setup. Sequential is 18.8 GB/s Read & 16.4 GB/s Write
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guess i dont notice it using fiber pcie links infiniband is a fun tech
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only way I could go faster is to RAMDisk the thing
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in theory inifiniband can do 400 gigabits per second
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any latency issues?
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that wouldnt really do anything
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none so far
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damn
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u can get cheap mellanox ones for around 70 a piece so around 140 for a setup
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if you allready got fiber laying around
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I'd have to lay it out, and even then, it'd be maybe a good 40 meter run.
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well... you 'can' store media off of Neos and call it in
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HTTP requests work fine for at least images. I'm guessing media files also would work fine
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40 meters so another 40 per cable if using dual then 2 cables around 80
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i encode all my stuff to be more streaming friendly to stream from a server to neos
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When I get a proper rack set up and not have a bunch of DELL cases stacked on top of eachother.
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If you have the problem the other way around... like having a lot of file you want to store "in neos" like extensiv worlds, videos you want to watch with people sometimes or anything bit you don't want to pay cloud storage for... ... a not well known fact about neos is that the load-world before the home world is actually completly offline
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But stored on your harddisk... inclusive every world or medium you store there
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Sooo... thats why i said you can store it in your loading-world
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It will really be saved on your harddisk, in neos friendly format
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mklink /d /h /j "c:\theNameOfTheSubfolderYouMovedToF" "f:\TheFolderNameOnF"
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Or very close to that
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beware that the access speed will be the speed of the F drive, even if the folder appears to be on C still (as in the symlink)
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that would be how i type it in in cmd, i am very sure it can be done in powershell very similar too
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Creating hard and soft links using PowerShell
Can PowerShell 1.0 create hard and soft links analogous to the Unix variety? If this isn't built in, can someone point me to a site that has a ps1 script that mimics this? This is a necessary fu...
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I used that quite often before i had bigger M.2 disks. Moving games i no longer intend to play for the next days to another drive, without losing the ability to actually start them on demand
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(and without losing their installation or files)
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if you want to move it back, just delete the symlink in the explorer, without any console or cmd, and move the folder back
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well, if you intend to play games that are more demanding (without making loading the main game) you can use my trick for exactly that
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or you use steam to move the files directly between your steam libery on c and f
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my computer is from 2010/2011
cpu is i5 2400
gpu is GT 430
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well, that would really be a reason for neos to make a stable mobile version, so you can at least play it with a cheap standalone vr headset ;)
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If you don't have link shell extension installed, explorer will recursively delete everything even following those links
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ime I'm fairly certain it doesn't.. you should be able to delete it in explorer
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that explains some things xP
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I'm just mentioning as it did that before, it might have changed and the explorer be smarter to deal with symlinks
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The safe way to remove symlinks to directories is actually the command RD without parameters
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Well, i delete symlinks by explorer since around 10 years. I am pretty sure it works. But you have to delete the symlink symbol (it looks different in the explorer)
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if it looks like a normal directory or is inside this symlink, don't delete it^^
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I have pretty much had directories deleted in Windows 7, that were pointed to by symlinks before, even if those symlinks were contained inside directories I deleted
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Haii
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its in your temp folder
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- 21 January 2023 (15 messages)
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Hello and welcome☺️ Just a quick reminder that this is an English only channel. Just to keep the conversation comprehensive for everyone ☺️. Many thanks for understanding 🙏☺️
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Without using a translator, it looks like a question, if someone is speaking Chinese
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= “Hello everyone, is there a Chinese group?”
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Thank you. 思雨 Currently there is no Chinese group at the moment but we can definitely consider that in the future ☺️
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There is a discord channel specifically for any questions relating to the headless server stuff (# headless-client). I'd check there, I recall atleast some text guides to help you get set up, not sure if there are any videos for it though. That channel is also where you get the beta key for the headless. You'll need to be supporting the Patreon at the Gunter level ($12/m) to have access to that channel and the headless.
- 22 January 2023 (6 messages)
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just so your aware: a world doesn't require to be on a headless client to work. They're handy for larger load events or for shared spaces, but aren't needed to build worlds or hang out
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Hello ad, where can i read about Ncr token usecase?
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For uses... I guess the wiki? Only uses atm is storage space and exchanging with other users
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otherwise, consult the whitepaper or inquire at hello@neosvr.com
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Hi, um, I need help. I've kinda somehow locked myself out of my account I created a while back. I've forgotten the password and requested a reset email but it's not coming through... and I can't create a new account on the same email...
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have you tried the in-app reset methd?
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I've just been using the website. Is it different in the actual game?
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Yup
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Oh okay I'll give that a try then
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Aha! It worked. Wonderful. Thank you v much 😊
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None - 24 January 2023 (6 messages)
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Joins immediately, DMs a moderator. Smooth.
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None - 25 January 2023 (7 messages)
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sup hows everyone
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also @malooniac https://neos.com/features , last set of bullet points https://imgur.com/a/7YDfcYh sessions is spelt incorrectly. no clue if you have any sway with the website or that's a Karel thing just letting ya knowFeatures
Neos is a virtual reality metaverse that reinvents and generalizes the way social experiences and various virtual creations are built, to let them all coexist in one shared space.
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Thank you for flagging it up, it's now been corrected. 😊
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No problem
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None - 26 January 2023 (5 messages)
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shib's current manager invested in a metacasino and the team members disagreed with the casino. shib is a community of 10 million people -
The differences between Shib and Doge have always confused me...
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The doge is a populist, no big investors behind, only a Chavez-like leader with a limited IQ. Shib was selected and added by the whole Ethereum Empire, the intelligence and financial power behind it, elon is not an opponent at all.
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The cryptocurrency space needs a micropayment tool. They have always had the vision to create a universal currency that is better than the dollar, making the dollar a scrap of paper that no one wants
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That is not possible. You'll always need fiat to pay your debts to the government.
- 27 January 2023 (38 messages)
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In our lifetimes, we will certainly see a country like New Zealand, with the entire country operating on ethereum. And the abolition of the police.
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LinkI’m about to enter my 30’s. I thought it’d be a good time to reflect on the last decade and share a little bit more of my background with the web3 community. Below is a LONG thread on where I came from, what I've been through, and my story... A THREAD 🧵🧵
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jeez... kind of weird to read that. I didn't do VB, but I did learn a Basic clone language with a similar structure around their time, which I then pivoted to C++ via Torque and DirectX 7 coding using Win32 API directly for window management.
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weirder so, back when I did compete in SkillsUSA, the person I tied with was a VB programmer, and it was the first time the competition was held at a state level for my area.
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not into NFTs at all, but I can give them mad respect for doing what they did and learning the ropes the old school way. You just don't learn stuff the same way anymore.
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Do we have someone here who is good at International Mathematical Olympiad?
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Enjoyed that thread, thanks. A great reminder that no matter how difficult it may seem, with enough determination we can all achieve our goals💪🚀
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For business inquiries reach out to hello@neos.com
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lots... of people magically showing up again...
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🤖 Many channels have to struggle with this
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hm 👀
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I mean... depends on what the users are wearing.
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Speaking personally, I don't really play a lot of mini games in general. It's just not what I do.
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my best guess is that people are more inclined to create and share gag items more so than do full mini games that fuller games usually do better.
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hey just to let you guys know my account was compromised and the only telegram chat it is in is this one. using a false sim impersonation and its useing a second phone so the only logical conclusion it was from this chat i reccomend everyone to turn on 2fa..
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just had the fright of my life when i noticed this account logged out
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noted. I am pretty sure I have 2FA enabled, but I'll double check
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Additionally, Neos is... a bit of a strange one when it comes to that. For example, in VRChat, you have worlds dedicated to certain games, like Uno, CAH, and so on. This is due to the limit of the system that content like that can only really exist in a per world situation.
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Wow... Telegram's 2FA is... pretty terrible by comparison to most other services
- 28 January 2023 (2 messages)
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redoing code is 'fun'... rewarding, but 'fun'...
- 29 January 2023 (33 messages)
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I want to know if the team is still working on this project
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sure
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cz is interest about neos
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source?
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I've just been busy redoing a fitness service integration for Neos
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Hi I'm still working on it and Andrea has recently posted with some messages for her perspective too.
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In the latest community Q&A, Binance founder CZ revealed that Cryptocurrency's next big product aims to address trust and transparency, with multiple products to be released around Cryptocurrency's Proof of Reserves and Proof of Solvency to provide a roadmap for greater transparency and public release. The product team aims to achieve 1 billion Binance certified users by further streamlining the KYC process.
Regarding plans to build a meta-universe, CZ said that if Binance builds a meta-universe, it will definitely be supported by BNB. Mayur Kamat, head of product at Binance, revealed that this year could bring more "Binance-powered metaversees". -
Recap: Product AMA With CZ and Mayur | Binance Blog
CZ, Binance’s CEO, and Mayur Kamat, Head of Product at Binance, hosted an AMA on Binance Live on January 14th, 2023.
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No problem
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close to a year ago
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read last message by probableprime (neos team member)
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Is the development team transparent to the other side about what they are doing with Neos?
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The new website was uploaded April 2022
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not too far up
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I have no luck trying to find out with archive.org, however I might try later or another day
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I won't be sharing further information as always you can find information in pinned messages here our website or the discord announcements channel
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- 30 January 2023 (45 messages)
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yeah. That was something I do miss with the older site: it had everything treated equally, even NCR. It was short, simple, and clean.
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there was a focus on what Neos was and less speculation
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NCR moon
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NCR moon
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Why do I keep seeing NCR and think NMS, and then start thinking of mockup names like "Yes PaperBill Star"?
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metaverse and VR/AR is on fire!
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I'd agree if Microsoft didn't just put another platform on the chopping block... a second time.
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Are you referring to AltspaceVR?😅
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Yeah. This is the second time they've been shutdown. The first was, ironically, halted due to Microsoft acquiring them. Judging from the quick reading I've done (namely, not a lot), it seems some parts are being shifted to something called Microsoft Mesh... which feels like an odd take of a mesh network.
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I think they want to focus on Microsoft Mesh the way I understand it but yes, it's a little sad. I used to like it. It was very friendly community in general.
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Haha you were faster. Yes I think it's the case.
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my only guess is if they were after some design systems or whatever. There are features that AltSpace offered that aren't present in other platforms, including Neos. There's some trickery that could be done to mimic them, but it'd be very flaky.
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Hey Lynix
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I agree with you. AltSpace is/was a fantastic platform for hosting events and larger-scale meetings.
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You're assuming I was fired which is incorrect, for everything else. I'm simply not gonna talk about it here. If you'd like to learn more I dunno Linked In InMail me or something.
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Now I think since they will shut down, many users will be looking for alternative platforms - I see that a lot of them are looking at VR Chat because of cross-platform compatibility. Understandably as I know that a lot of people I met on there actually preferred the desktop mode.
So VR Chat might be sufficient for now however, I think the ease of use of AltSpace is/was something that VR Chat (and current Neos) still lack and so our focus on devices like the Quest and user friendliness etc. is really mandatory. (And probably in general is to any social VR platform). -
I'm not asking to mirror AltSpace, though that'd be a nice thing. Part of what made it work, I feel, was the low quality graphics, since it didn't require a lot of memory to store everything. This was how events with 'hundreds' of users actually worked: it was secretly many sessions, with the host/presenter given the ability to see specific notifications (hand raises) and switch to those sessions seamlessly.
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Neos has session functionality, but it's hindered by high memory requirements and the lack of seamlessness unless you use the same conditions.
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The only hurdle, at that point, is syncing the host's audio and movements across all sessions natively. A humble Logix setup could allow mirroring via websockets from the host to the other sessions, but that'd be fairly janky.
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oh is that the FrontRow thing? So the event is kind of mirrored?
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Correct. I took a small course on this as required by my previous occupation.
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Hi chenlong , there is no official Chinese group as of now sorry, but it's definitely something we could take a look at in the future:)
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I'm starting to slowly realize I'm using Neos more of a BigScreen alternative: https://fxtwitter.com/FlameSoulis/status/1619980049247277058Flame Soulis (@FlameSoulis)
Just lounging and seeing how well Ark runs on a Steamdeck. The controls are jank, though. Also lovely to see the backlights on the TV working. #NeosVR #vr #ArkSurvivalEvolved #SteamDeck
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I often use it to watch videos with groups of people together
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Added bonus: They can look like they want
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Thats all single-world bottlenecks. Has nothing to do with neos as a network. Its a question how many users can be in one world that can only be answered by asset, world, physics and engine optimization
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VrChat answers that question by having very low res assets and world. Also basicly no physics or complex game engine. That allows for more player but less creativity
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Remember that improvements to single world operations also impacts larger scale concepts, which all platforms have to contend with.
- 31 January 2023 (12 messages)
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🚀 Check out Neos Credits $NCR prices @CoinGecko!✨🦎 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/neos-credits?utm_source=screenshot&utm_medium=appNeos Credits Price: NCR Live Price Chart & News | CoinGecko
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How about switching from discord chat link to telegram chat link?
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@malooniac
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On... what?
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@1314262393 / Public archive of Telegram messages.
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