Morning alex

Lot of text to read 😮

And none of it was about turkey

Although Turkey's instanbul airport was very nice when I went through there over the holidays

Oh yea? How was it there?

Huge airport, exceptionally clean. The most amenities I've ever seen and multiple food courts.

Shake shack had no shakes though :(

oh no :D

You would think that "shake shack" should have shakes^^

WiFi was some $ after 1 hour free but was still less than the cost of one shake that shake shack did not have :(

Yea, they are pretty modern and socially pretty close. They probably would be part of the EU by now, if not for the dictatorship

Ha, my speech about "accept people for who they are" was downvoted. Seams like it wasn't unnecessary in the end to say this after all. There are still people that want to clinch to the magical world of unicorns where absolutely everyone is "normal". But the reality is that everyone pretends. Usually in public, so everyone else think they are the only ones different and join in that big game of pretend to be perceived as normal. Reality is, everyone is strange in their own way. The world where everyone is just a robot that does how they are told doesn't exist, anywhere.

i certainly wish more people accepted others..
barring any ideals that can be seen as harmful etc. you-know-what-these-are
i'd like to just live and let live :p

I can't pretend to be normal it causes lot of bad situations like some restaurant owner yelling at me for putting my bike where he put chairs in front of the bike parking place

Or the chicken pie that was new at the baking section at lidl but it smelled off so I put it back and then a man said something to me and followed me through the store

Something like "hey you can't do that"

There is no such thing as normal

I really should have recorded it it was hilarious 😂

Basically memes irl

At this point, it is hardly worth coming up with examples. If every excuse given from this group was documented, it'd be a novel with the possibility of a trilogy not being far behind.

Being not normal is ok

That was hardly the point...

When I see a pile of trash at the container I have to see what useful stuff is in there that I can fix and donate I do this a lot that's certainly not normal but is fun

Considering the responses given in this channel, that is an ill-advised action. Give praise, and it is met with distain. Give criticisms, and it is met with unrelated hostility. Give a thoughtful argument, and it is met with factless drabble.

Fun

Even if that is not an accurate description of the whole, despite the size, so few actually mutter words here.

In a sense, the "vocal minority" have indeed become a representation of the whole... because they are the only ones to speak.

I like this chat a lot lot of good conversations always happen here lot of fun

I like the parts especially about crypto 😂

Always fun to see what people come up with

They used to be interesting and raised good debates. That is no longer the case, it seems. Even then, from the sidelines, to say the actions that do take place here are viewed with disappointment would be an understatement. While the rest of the world moves forward, this and the topic have become locked.

More importantly, when rather significant issues arose, which could have had a notable action against the project's value, no information was ever mentioned here, nor did anyone else notice it. I continue to observe that virtually no one here, besides "those from discord," has actually tried what the collective "has invested in." Even a Tesla investor has at least SEEN one of their cars and may have even gotten to look them around.
I've seen a distinctive difference: some people uphold a very powerful mindset and are also in Neos. I've yet to see that reflective here, and based on past mentions that Neos "has nothing to do with NCR," it shows that the true intentions were never about funding a project like it was in the past and was entirely for self-profit.

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Pretending to be normal to some point is fine. To act in accord to expectations makes it easier for everyone. I just wanted to point out that people are so used to pretend they are "normal" that they start to believe that the act everyone puts up is actual reality.

I know thats not realteable to many of you, but there are people that like to remove their cloth at home, as soon as they go inside... they would like to do that all the time, but thats not socially acceptable.
Or others that like to talk with everyone naturally, but they don't, because thats an elevator, or a toilet, and you don't do that on a toilet.
Others may just love the sun, would like to stand there in the middle of the sidewalk, but don't do that because they are self concious of being watched.
Some may feel the need for attention or singing or running instead of walking in public. But you can not do that, because thats not normal.

Me? Its even worse with me as a babyfur.
When i see children having fun in a ball pit, i feel like "i wanna too", but this is obviously not publicly acceptable, so i am happy for the children having fun and go my way.
I am stressed, i often see other adults sucking on their glowing pacifiers they call cigarrets... but its not socially acceptable to use an actual pacifier, so i obviously smile and try to calm myself down without (not succumbing to the need of a drug like nicotin to help with that)

So never forget, normal is just a very narrow fitting to expectations ;)

I think the bigger takeaway is that Neos, VRC, Chillout, and even Overte all are designed with self-expression in mind, where you can be yourself if you create an avatar to your image... but you'll be amongst other unlike the norm, including "a gorilla or a dragon or a giant talking penis in the Metaverse." You could go to a cafe and just do work, or you can be floating in space without a need or care for air, or underwater, where barometric pressure be damned.

just showing people here because i'm bored just working on some simple logix nodes inside of neosvr to interact with some crypto stuff and learning how the nethereum library works https://imgur.com/a/B2kNe76

very good, clean way to do that. looks great

yeah figuring out the code for the token price node was a pain since the api is using graphql ill try to find a replacement but eh for now

Its fine. One of the most done error in neos is done by actual programmers that learned how to program before going into neos. Its making big, interconnectec programs with hundets of logix nodes

What makes logicx so powerful is exactly not do that, but making small, independend functions or objects that relay information to each other (if nessesary) or work independently with 20 commands tops

For me, I definitely need to look into making custom nodes... mostly to act as shortcuts for when doing projects

well this is all done through the plugin system so yeah

The only problem with the plugin system is that the code only runs on your system with your plugin obviously

That's something I do like about Node-RED, is that when making a custom function, you can specify the inputs and outputs. If there was like a RedPrint system or whatever that allowed similar packing, it'd be very interesting to see what more could be done with that sort of thing

BUT you can make it in a way (if you want) that they relay the result, so that it at least works when you are in the world

unless u got others with the same plugin

(also adding silicone bumpers to my keyboard's circuit? Absolute bliss)

Yes, true, but the expectation should always be that others don't have your plugins. The 3 categories of plugins are "fully compatible" (usually something that doesn't creates information that needs be relayed or actually changes something in the world others need to see, for personal use like interface parts), "relays" (only works with the plugins installed, but puts the generated information in a form that can be perceived by everyone in the world, even without the plugin) and "game breaking" (others need to have that plugin to see it or even join your world)

I dislike the last category and try to prevent it at all cost when creating plugins

you sure your not refering to mods ?

cus all plugins break compatability

i may have mixed something up then, give me a second.

Yes, i meant mods

people forget the plugin system exists ;-; XD

Plugin system is really nice to make a total conversion, but usually you want to keep compatible to other players. I mean a connected vr world is only half as fun without... connections

Mods are the glue in between to make actual useful things that can even work well enough to be somewhat not game breaking, even if the other player doesn't have it

kinda fights what i was aiming for neosplus is like a game modpack its just a plugin full of nodes and weird features and we max had around 12 users on the plugin just to play with stuff wait no near 20 when the jp users came on it because of clothsim

but i understand

Was there anything interesting in the last ten hours?

spaghetti

Short answer: not really
Elongated answer: Unless you enjoy the discussions of "Thou are a furry, therefor art thou hateful," still no

I'm just wanting us to get our game back. Just sick of the gridlock, really want something to happen.

Nah you can still play in a ball pit or crawl through a indoor climb place you know the ones with the slides and everything is padded and those rollers and ball canons there is like the autism group events that do those things too those places can be rented and such I went there a lot it's lot of fun and I'm not a baby fur or anything

May do that some day on a meeting with others ;)

Honestly at this point, neos will not get any meaningful updates until karel leaves his position. The team will always refuse to work with him, and that's just how it is.

I hope karel can accept that and move on, because this is just hurting VR as a whole.

Also, karel. You say that the team doesn't understand you, but honestly, I think you don't understand the team.

That is just my opinion and take on it.

Its both. Karel means well i think and he seams to really care about the project, but there is also a point where you have to let go. This point was pretty much reached years ago. So i am not sure if something changes soon. I would be happy to see it, and even happier if karel and froox try for their own vision of neos each, even if that means to split the community to a point, but i think its totally worth it, because of its potential.

And if not, well, froox should get control and should get the chance to fail... or prevail, with his own vision.

It is incorrect to say "the furries", some furries like Karel, some furries don't.

Try again, how about "Why do so many people hate Karel so much?"

See it makes your statements more relatable, logical and reasonable.

aren't the dev team volunteers? As in, it isn't exactly mandatory. Considering the people involved would have to be dealing with the code, having trusted people deal with it would a large criteria so... good friends are fairly trustworthy at times...

People dislike the project to stand still. I would very much prefer, as i have said, karel to make its own copy of the project and going ahead do his own thing + froox developing his vision of neos. I don't dislike karel, i dislike stagnation.

that's a path I'd be fine with... afterall, Karel has had a great amount of success finding a new team

Thank you, for once this is a sentence that doesn't insult anyone. Its an opinion and a statement.

Now of course I don't agree but that's totally ok! I'm just happy its at least reasonably polite.

Its also the other way around. Its not that froox allowed to many close friends to become part of the development team, but he made many close friends in the development team over the years. Obviously, people that shared his vision and creation.

Well, he does pay it with the money that people give him by promiss of using it for that purpose... Its not his money, but yes, he could do that. As a result he would be unfit for the role as CEO and replaced by law... and the thing would end too

But he is a professional, he would not just do something that hurts him and everyone else just out of spite.

Pretty much the long and short of what he said, yes

Technically, nothing the dev team has done has resulted in the systems to stop functioning. Karel suepending the cloud storage, on the other hand, is basically destroying the heart of the system, which is almost mandatory to function.

To put this out bluntly... everyone pretends to do their job. Dev team patches if there are major issues, karel pays the services (or has most likely an automatic payment setup)

Both do the minimum required to keep it running to be technically doing their job. None of them want to break this, i strongly assume. But its not a good long term plan.

Which part od Karel's job can be classified as "pretending"?

I mean this kinda thing has happened before XD
Take a look at Arm China a year ago: https://www.pcgamer.com/arm-china-rogue-ceo-ousted/

considering how many people here seem to just want to return to trading NCR, by any means, despite the fact the platform defines the value of the token. Of course, the same people also don't seem to acknowledge that

additionally, that's very petty to want to tear down the system all because the token's value plummeted, which was... never designed for trading in the first place? It was to act as a way to fund the project, not speculate value, and considering the stale development... a lowered value makes sense

there are also some supporters inside the furry community too.

please stop speaking in absolutes, you were almost there.

No this time, I'm not complaining about you insulting them.

This time I'm complaining at your absoluteness of statements.

My goal is to ensure you realize that there's bias in your statements that can easily be reduced and omitted which makes your arguments, stronger and easier to read. Here's a hint, if you use the term "furry" at all you've missed the point.

There are furries and non-furries who both support and do not support Karel/NCR the point is you don't necessarily have to be a furry to not support him and you don't need to NOT be a furry to support him.

It helps you realize the bias in your arguments which leads them to be better typed and full of less flaws.

Because a healthy debate requires as little bias as possible :)

That's all.

They are likely in here, this channel. They're likely just not keen on speaking up because of your history in referring to them.

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around, does it make a sound?

Except... what pro users? Karel hasn't answered many subscribers to that service, and most I know have terminated it. Additionally, per his own statement, he's been unable to hire any new developers, as he intends to only pay via ETH. Considering that ETH is at least more healthy by comparison in the trading market, that alone should show that there's just no interest in cryptocurrencies as a serious system in the tech sector, as ironic as it may be.

,..media? Oh boy...

Cool the feeling is mutual.

I hope you have a fantastic evening.

See, thats why i said it doesn't make sense to take time to teach Mk.Fund. It seams like his only goal is to be condescending, agression, continuing to spread false claims and pinning his own failures on others. Every change of that is temporary and the next time you speak to them, bam, it starts up again and takes time of everyone.

Its funny that the one person that titled others as "children" and "immature" requires the most getting spoon fed and is still not able to eat. I genuinely think they are just a bad person. Sounds rough, but thats pretty much how i feel.

Hmm, yea, well i am happy that still so many people stand by Froox and Karel after all that time, but it would be really good for everyone if something would move. And really, what i would like the most to see would be a split of the two parties and two projects that try going different ways to maximize the chance of success. Also would solve the deadlock over the code ownership.

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Because none* of Neos moderators have any ability to moderate here, The only 3 able to moderate here are Karel, Andrea, and Nonny.

Technically there are also the 2 random bots, one of which rarely does anything, the other is actually useless as it covers a feature that was just toggled on the channel instead.

I am one, I have never had anything personal against Karel as he hasn't done anything directly or indirectly to harm me. I recognize that flaws exist in many people and I do not hate him because of any actions he has taken that I did not support. I support him in hopes that he is able to find solutions for himself, his family, and is able to grow beyond the current situation.

They don't watch over the telegram channel constantly

sometimes I get DMs from crypto scammers coming from this group 👀

Hi rucio

Hello :)

I dunno, I don't often see action from them unless directly messaged/mentioned and even then..

this channel has been on repeat for the better part of a year, no progress gets made here despite the constant conversation
same "the furries" vs. "karel co." even though neither side seems to actually exist
just a distraction from real issues and getting in the way of anything meaningful

then what are you here for? to "take it back?" you do you..

While Funds behaviour is vile and stupid, please don't give Fund the time of day. We tried, really tried. It is obvious to anyone they are trolling by now, so lets just ignore them and wait until moderation does their job.

Done

It was a run around. He repeated the same false claims, attacked people, belittling them, described a conspiracy of furries taking Karels rights and wealth, hiding behind his origin like "oh yea, in my country everyone is hating furries and people that are not having investments".

We told him not to be condescending, ProbablyPrime tried to teach them how to use arguments instead of blunt attacks, lies and prejudice. He was thanked by being described as a furry (against any objective reality) and as such nothing he is saying is of any value.

In short, his behaviour against others and this group was worth the ban, and as it happend repeatetly over 2 days, it is likely that control isn't his strong suit.

Hmm, well i can't say i envy him for that. If true, i would be angry too. But creating convenient lies and attacking random people isn't a solution. In fact if all of what he made up would be true, it still would not help to spew poison in a random chat. I mean the value of NCR rises and falls with the success of Neos. I can't imagine how this success would be impacted positive by this behaviour. That is the reason why i think this talk about investment is a lie too.

Also, I would like to point out that almost everyone lost. Many in-world users were Patreon backers, who had been given minted NCR throughout their backing period, often going many years. During the spike, many were excited but equally confused. Given the value has dropped to near its starting point, it's safe to say that no matter how much was invested, be it a million, a few thousand, or even just $100 in the long run, those users, myself included, lost YEARS worth backing in the flash of an eye... and no one did anything.

In short, the frustration is mutual, not exclusive.

That and much of their misconceptions were gladly accepted as truth here... case in point...
"He told the truth about the drama."
Except, no, they didn't. People here just grasped at it as something to cling to, and that is why it appears to be truth, when it often was very baseless.

I also like speculating 🤔

😂🤣

I was watching it but didn't bother responding to any of it...Just amazed is was lasting that long lol

It is excellent that when users break the rules here they are banned. Regardless of who or what they are and what they represent.

I will raise a glass of cheese.

And then continue with their alt accounts talking about themselves in third person

you mean like the <REDACTED> who still patrols silently and somehow wants <REDACTED> in addition to attention?

SCP?!??! I was summoned...

Why are you responding to that? Also the response makes no sense

I'm excited, do they involve food?

Yes, that's me.

I love cheese. Send it my way.

I miss the unbridled optimism of 2020. :P

Fantastic.

I'm just eating ice cream.

I am a "Specialista" in cheese.

Sadly i currently have no cheese, but as soon as i find a merp i will steal some cheese for you

Its ok P Key does

hmm.. so hard work does pay off :D

hard to refuse cheese

I know, Free cheeese!

Karel Thank you for your dedication. I put hundreds of thousands of dollars in when you said you would be the captain to take us through the storm. I hope you can handle the handover properly. I truly hope you give it another try. My mentor is a genius, he has two communities of hundreds of thousands of people, and his friends have billions of dollars in btc, and they have backed sandbox. you should know that the future of this space is in a position to have a few hundred billion dollar market cap projects, and I don't want it to be a scammer gamefi company, or a fool virtual land, artificially created scarcity project that succeeds. neos has a great good community. I am the least educated person here. I have no money to come to the world of cryptocurrency. I had fun in the world of cryptocurrencies, of course I made a lot of wealth and missed out on a lot because I wasn't brave enough. I fell this time, I invested in a future winner I thought was a mistake, smart people only bet on strong teams. I was ridiculed by my VR insider friends around me who don't understand cryptocurrency, why do you think neos vr will win? They would all bet on meta. i saw a lot of star companies valued at $1.5 billion at ethdenver this time, over commercialized and don't care about the community. I'm starting to understand how the community members of neos think. We cryptocurrencies only have communities anymore. Traditional finance has more money. Then there are the tech companies that promote and advertise very hard on sxsw. I hope neos vr pays attention to this in the future, cryptocurrency projects are not good at promoting and promoting, only scammer projects are good at promoting.

There's also the cryptocurrency space that already thinks your current story isn't sexy enough

I met a friend who made a public chain, he was originally in the garment business, he made a public chain and finally lost to Ethereum .He told me that at first the ethereum community was the teenage dream. And not like now it seems that only people from top2 schools can realize the dream.

Wen staking

质押了也没东西给啊，项目目前一点盈利能力也没有

Rough translation of above message:
You would get nothing after staking, as there's no profitability in this project at all

An underrated, wholesome review if there ever was

wtf it wasnt me who brought up turkey lmao

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Hey folks, with whom I can negotiate about proposal?

hello@neos.com is the official point of all business inquiries

🧀

We won HM!

Nice

Thanks!

morning

There is one called Deep Dreams, it's full of beautiful glowing jelly fish so that would be my favourite together with this one I just discovered ....

I mean it doesn't get better than field of glowing butterflies for me...😁❤️🦋

But all of them are so so incredibly great. Works of art.

Which one is your favourite @feyyore ?☺️

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Who is at GDC?

Hmmm... I mean, if the only changes were to a string and an external binary, fixing the MMC thing is just a hex editor away.

Of course, I haven't tested the website build on my Steamdeck because of no Linux binary...

or editing/replacing the facet to change the string

Wouldn't that be temporary until regenerated on next startup?

if your remove the 'WorldFilterFacetPreset' component, it will not

is ncr token is dead？

more or less. Considering the platform has had no updates, a major event resulting in tons of creation occurred, and the value of the token itself hasn't changed in reflection of that (if anything, it went down entirely when the MMC was announced and even further towards the end of February), it's pretty safe to assume it's flatlined at $0.09

If a major event, with prize money and the innovation of newer concepts and ideas isn't enough to make NCR fluctuate in any direction, "she's dead, Jim."

There is no market place to increase the value of NCR.

when market place?

Maybe never

Karel @malooniac right? scammers?

A market place system was in the "to be worked on" features, but at the moment, the only markets for NCR are internally, which are used to pay off cloud storage, and exchanges, where speculation resulted in collapse

So, technically speaking, if people wanted the most direct and easy way to exchange for fiat, one could consider talking with people in-world who need extended cloud storage space, but aren't interested in the Patreon. However, this only works with the in-world wallet, and not an external one

Believe in ncr they said 😅

"Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it."

What is outdated in your opinion? The lack of updates I understand but I'm curious about out of date things.

I'm interested in your opinion. Your feedback might make it to my todo list.

What, karel said it will surpass ATH?

https://t.me/c/1314262393/37706

months ago for ATH? to eventually happen? It's at its all time lowest since 2 years

Would need a 229% boom to return to before the spike

especially considering that the value has gone down by 14% since those quotes

yeah.... I was onboard for many years... it just would be murder to attempt to withdraw now... let alone, assuming it'd even go through since that process is still manually done

same

Karel upset a lot of people and investors with his unprofessional actions, so i'm not sure that will happen.

I forgot about my patreon, where's the launcher that displays NCR ingame again?

Or does it work with the steam client again?

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steam does not since steam policy forbids crypto implementations the website build over at neos.com or you can log in on the neos website and on the profile it shows ncr ammount

Just to point out. Has nothing to do with neos. Steam banned neos at one point for integrating crypto

Thanks!

no problem ^_^

Hello all how’s everyone’s day going.

Doing alright. Just wrapping up work after last night's discovery regarding the latency of RTMP not changing, even if using my old junker VPS from 2016

you likely didn't expect it to have happened in the first place though

almost everyone here woulda lost that bet

What is NEOS+ ?

A plugin. Not a mod but a big package of changes to add to the functions of neos. Not compatible to any neos user not having it

But probably the biggest set of changes to the vanilla version

It also demos a bit of an issue with the open source route... While NEOS+ adds a ton of features, that fork would be incompatible with the base viewer. Unless a ruleset akin to what Linden Lab established with Second Life, where any forks of the client MUST retain the same experience between eachother (as in, no exclusive things like breast physics or other entity animation overriding), you'll create a situation where the userbase gets split apart

I mean... it's clearly worked for Linden Lab so... *shrugs*

That being said, it doesn't mean that once updates do start coming out, that NEOS+ could be viewed as a way to experiment with newer ideas and concepts that could become real systems in the base client

There is a difference between mods and plugins in my opinion. Mods can enrich the base experience and plugins have their usages for class rooms or other isolated cases

But splitting the main user base is a no-no, so plugins for half the user and half not, currently not a good thing, while i do appreciate the effort behind it

That being said... I do find the idea of plug-ins being used to test beta features... interesting

neos+ can be used, sort of
at the very least, left enabled, but you cannot use any of its features in normal sessions
it does not provide enough features for the downside of such incompatibility so remains mostly experimental and for fun

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NCR+?

No neos+ it is unrelated to ncr

why not? I don't think it can be completely unrelated

It doesn't do anything with NCR, it is just a plugin

Its relation in any sense is just Neos

what features does Neos+ adds to neos?

There's a lot, probably better to go read about them on its page.

https://github.com/Xlinka/NeosPlus/

hm it just says "adds extra features" but it doesn't say what features xP I'll read the source code

https://github.com/Xlinka/NeosPlus/wiki

Lists the stuff

I'm curious, will the neos vr team be willing to have exhibitors go to GDC? Or do you not want the public to play your platform?

That's a strange chain of logic there.

For us to attend GDC is one thing, but to exhibit as in having a booth is very expensive.

Neither however, means that we do or do not want someone to use our platform. I think its strange to think that attending an event signifies our desires.

This year there were a very large number of web3 companies exhibiting. I met a lot of game fans on site, which touched me, they really love games. I introduced them to neos vr

The game industry is very closed and looks down on web3 game companies

I'm not sure what that has to do with Neos specifically as it isn't a Web3 based system...

I mean, anyone right now can go on Steam or the website, jump into Neos without an account, and do whatever. There aren't any restrictions in place

As long as the team and cto settle, neos vr could very well become a 100 billion market cap crypto project. I know some rich people who have backed such a project. I can go try to convince them.

That may be the case but I dont think any of it has to do with one event(GDC).

Of course I'd like for us to be at every event, but who knows where "event attendance/travel" is on the budget :)

That, and you'd have to consider the general user scope... and uh... well, let's just say crypto isn't the hottest topic right now...
(especially right now)

seeing as "the game industry .. looks down on web3 game companies" advertising neos as such is surely the worst thing possible

Come to the Neos booth we have cheeese!

I'd be there in an instant!

hmm.. does gdc accept cheese as attendance fee?

Last time I was there, I ended up at an ID@Xbox party, played giant jenga, got drunk and ate a ton of buffet food \o/

sounds fun x3

No, just because some game companies are too profitable now. And those who enter web3 are scam game companies. neos vr is not, it has a strong community

That sounds rather awesome.

I talked to the staff of meta, their former startup also intended to make their own engine, and then found that the engine is a platform, they gave up.

But... why is it a strong community? That's the core reason why it wouldn't work...
The community is not based around NCR or Web3 systems; It's based on the systems Neos itself offers and the common interest of socializing and sharing creations

If Neos did have a booth, hypothetically, it'd be based on its most substantial core principals

The employees of meta are all vr enthusiasts. They have lost too much money because of hardware, so now they want to earn back through software

what remains of them, anyway...

That's just because you don't have access to web3. Yesterday arb gave everyone $4,000 each, which will affect many young people's lives

Then I went to the pico vr and they had a particularly large booth. I realized I knew their software product leader

You seem to be dodging and missing the point.
Value is in the eye of the beholder, and much of what goes on in Neos, and many other systems, has content creation happening constantly all the time, being exchanged and shown off without tender being exchanged, because finances aren't the point. Anyone, right now, with only the setup of an application, can access this.
What's the requirement to access this magical Web3 and is it only based on finances?

I got the ARB airdrop!

Wen NCR rektdrop?

judging by the state of things... most unlikely ever

:c

I'm going to take a safe assumption that 'airdrops' usually are to help spread the market so that trading is incentivized or to help promote new products based around a system? Neos had that, and it got played. Even then, there is only storage rental use, so the most people could have in the current market is exchange in-world tokens for more storage... which lasts an entire month.

At 5 NCR per GB per Month, people can easily just get by for less than two US quarters per month... so what'd be the point of dropping NCR on people when it'd just be used so slowly anyway...

That's just the way it is. There was only an exchange-by-hands system in place, not a systematic process... and what was systematic has clearly become laughably so pointless, it makes the desire to have NCR increase in value kind of fruitless.

Right now, I'm sitting on a nice horde and the amount of time I have racked up right now? Enough to last me a very healthy and plentiful amount of time and space...

And not once have I touched an exchange. And this isn't unique to only myself.

I mean, that's kind of what you get when you only hold interest in something purely for its finances: it's been sucked dry, and now you just have its hollow husk.

And no, "the people of Neos" had nothing to do with its value dropping. If anything, the continued efforts to use, create, and enjoy the platform, despite the ongoing events, should have given the token more value.

And maybe it did, but with so many people just focusing on value, on raw numbers, the worth of it just continued to be drained despite the possible gains.

I continued, from the beginning, to point out how few people here actually looked around, actually took time to learn about the product they were "investing in," and to see this be the endpoint, the footnote of this chapter...

No other author could have composed as fitting of an ending. That has been this channel's only creation.

That's nothing new.

if the last set of messages are to go by, he is taking in applications for people who want to take his position, which said applications can be sent to karelwantsout@neos.com. Any inquiries for business or any other partnerships are still to go to hello@neos.com

I think you should apply Easton :D

We did have a list in the readme but it was too long if you would like I can add. It back but probs as a wiki page

Yeah we have a few things json parsing nodes,collections,custom shaders,the weird cloth physics that everyone seemed to like and a bunch of logix nodes that people just request

Oddly idk why my plug-in is brought up every so often in here

Tho recently been working on a launcher so we can use 3rd party dlls such as nethereum or anything that we need to implement a logix or component

It does cause some confusion, Its why generally I don't recommend suffixing or prefixing community projects with Neos.

Ooo 👀
tbh it won't improve my experience because the base game itself already runs at 12 - 30 FPS on my PC xP

Yeah that’s just Neos xD

I wonder if there's a mod to remove all cameras locally, wharever someone spawns a camera my FPS drops to 4 xP

There is one that does that as more of a side effect of trying to disable mirrors locally. Mirrors also use cameras

Not sure offhand if there has been any attempts at just all cameras*

Ooo I could try making a mod that does that
I know c# owo

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cto and the team announced a settlement, ncr will go up immediately. Now is a good time to do a small successful project. The rest depends on how much talent we have. I know a very talented person who reads two hours a day, but he needs at least a few hundred thousand dollars a year

A project using Neos or something else?

I still want neos vr to be this successful project. But it needs to reconcile and then come up with a sexy story.

I like the corporate culture of neos vr, disruptive innovation, innovate at the expense of killing yourself. eth community is all about that. You guys are very similar.

not sure corporate culture is an exact way to describe everything...
I mean, if what you say is true, then failure to truly result in destruction also means failure, and fully resulting in termination also means nothing is carried on, particularly in this case...

A settlement has somehow come out? I hope there's a source for this

Guess they have some sell orders that need buying...

Lmao

What do you think of the Korean valeg hardware product? Just over $800, but you need to order from ten

zk and sui can go to experience, what do you feel, I recently received tens of thousands of consecutive, thousands of dollars, feel quite good

The problem with my English level. I mean if the CTO and team are willing to settle, the token price of ncr will go up immediately. I don't think reconciliation is possible myself

Well, if a settlement is made, ideally the two would go on their own separate paths. The thing is, so much damage has been done, it'll be difficult for both the platform and the token to ever recover. Thing is, the token would get the backseat treatment if settled as originally intended, being made as a financial plug-in

(if I remember the announcements right)

Waaait a sec, I've heard Peter Theil speak and his English is very good :P

Best to ignore them. it isn't likely to be the actual Peter thiel

I'm just a fan of his, I'm not really peter thiel, but my mentor is as smart as he is. So I also hope karel doesn't make excuses, I see his Czech traits, good math and humor. After my mentor was cheated out of a million dollars he borrowed from a friend, he borrowed a few hundred thousand dollars and made 80 million dollars in a year to lead a community of a million people onward. During his hardest time, it was our community that kept donating to invest in his business.

Also karel or the community must have someone step up to the plate, my mentor forced himself to read two hours a day. He bought all the books on the market about cryptocurrency before he could read bitcoin and then explain it to us in detail. So my days of holding btc were a lot of fun. I've seen people who think they're geniuses and weren't able to read enough books during the startup process

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Working on it. I have plans to work on a world conversion, but that's for the weekend.

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什么项目启动营销市场

Hey there, communication in this channel should be conducted in English only. Not sure what you are asking for trying google translate either.

something about asking when will the project start doing marketing

"It seems that the person is asking about a specific project and inquiring whether it has started its marketing campaign or not." - ChatGPT

i wouldnt rely on chatgpt for translations XD

I mean, it got the concept pretty spot on id say

its close yeah XD just wouldnt rely on it

Translations is actually something that ChatGPT is pretty good at. Its factual informations that it stumbles

Language is not a factual information, its a transformation

(more meaning then specific words)

Tell him there is nothing to market in this project.

目前没有针对 NCR 的营销计划，而且 Neos 本身与 NCR 是分开的。另外，请注意，本聊天室仅支持英文。如果您想用中文交流，请加入我们的 Discord 频道，并使用专门的中文聊天室。如有任何官方业务咨询，请发送电子邮件至 hello@neos.com。

不懂不要乱说

请问你是中国人吗

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